[DCRM-L] Errors in EEBO

Tue Nov 19 08:50:40 MST 2019

In this case yes, the issue had nothing to do with the MARC. When the film
was scanned for EEBO, one of the items was skipped. The image targets for
the one item were attached to both records. We requested the film, and the
images will be resent to the platform. Our MARC record identifiers serve as
the unique identifiers for EEBO items as well, so even if the bibliographic
content of a record is not updated, the records need to be resent as well
to update the database.

I was speaking more generally about the error reporting/correcting process,
as it is a pain point for EEBO. I have seen others equally (and rightfully)
frustrated about the turnaround time on error correction, and thought it
could stem from a lack of communication on our end.

Best,
Katelyn

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:16 AM JOHN LANCASTER <jjlancaster at me.com> wrote:

> I fail to see how this sort of error relates to the MARC record.
>
> Here the issue is that the same copy (the same set of images, of the copy
> at Harvard Law STC 7712.4) is found by searching reel position 1813:11 and
> 1813:12 in EEBO.
>
> Reel position 1813:11 should be the copy at Harvard Law STC 7712.2 (and is
> so identified on EEBO, incorrectly).
>
> I don’t have access to the film, so I can’t tell which problem exists:
>
> 1) The same copy was incorporated into the film at both positions, and the
> copy that should have been at 1813:11 (Harvard Law STC 7712.2) was omitted
> from the film as published; or
>
> 2) the correct copy is on the film, but when the films were digitized, the
> same copy was digitized twice; or
>
> 3) when one searches reel position 1813:11, the link incorrectly goes to
> 1813:12.
>
> Or perhaps some other issue.
>
> But it has nothing to do with the bibliographic record.
>
> If the correct copy has been digitized and is available, then the link in
> the ESTC record should be corrected.
>
> If the film of that copy has not been digitized, then it should be
> digitized and the link corrected.
>
> If the film of that copy (which I’m pretty sure was made at the same time
> as that of STC 7712.4) has been lost, I guess there’s nothing to be done.
>
> John Lancaster
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2019, at 8:53 AM, Katelyn Jedro <katelyn.jedro at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> No tomatoes please. but I can offer a little background on the error
> correction process for EEBO. When errors are reported for EEBO, they
> typically come through our customer service department and are routed to
> the appropriate people. For EEBO, these errors get sent to our Cambridge
> team (who maintain the platform) and they forward them to my group. For
> better or worse, the resource description pages are built off the MARC
> records created for the film product. When errors are reported, we review
> and correct the MARC records. The platform itself is only updated with the
> latest release. As this typically happens in November each year, it can be
> quite a long time before an error you reported gets a correction on the
> platform.
>
> In better news, we are all working together to make this a monthly
> process, so errors can be taken care of more promptly.
>
> Best,
> Katelyn Borbely
> Metadata Librarian
> ProQuest
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:01 PM Person, Mary <person at law.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> First many thanks to those who replied off-list and to the list. I very
>> much appreciate it!
>>
>>
>>
>> Meanwhile, I’ve been informed that any errors such as this should be
>> reported to ESTC at estc-catalog at cbsr.ucr.edu. They can move a link to
>> EEBO onto the correct ESTC record and make a note in the ESTC bibliographic
>> record about the error in EEBO.
>>
>>
>>
>> How soon errors will be corrected in EEBO is another issue, but at least
>> we can do that much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On Behalf Of *William
>> Hale
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2019 5:04 AM
>> *To:* DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Errors in EEBO
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mary,
>>
>>
>>
>> This sounds sensible to me. I can’t find an example right now, but I
>> think ESTC makes notes about the microfilm reproductions which are the
>> source for most EEBO scans in a local note in the bibliographic record, so
>> I can’t imagine anyone objecting if you emulated them. The challenge would
>> be to remember to remove the note if/when EEBO corrects the error.
>>
>>
>>
>> William.
>>
>> --
>>
>> William Hale
>>
>> Treasurer, Cambridge Bibliographical Society
>>
>> Rare Books and Early Manuscripts Department
>> Cambridge University Library
>> West Road, Cambridge, UK, CB3 9DR
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lib.cam.ac.uk_deptserv_rarebooks_index.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EkkQFOGUCtF2osSJj7hvtyM31K6sxQSo34Z9RQpCmDw&m=D_lN-5aRILOZUCXwnrGhrLQjx3uhliFwCJRTG334WdU&s=kbAexZXUAe0cgz5yRVBlDC8Gvr44ZPdFwMHGTlIIbRw&e=>
>>
>> Telephone: (+44) (0)1223 333122 <+44%201223%20333122>
>> Email: William.Hale at lib.cam.ac.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Person, Mary
>> *Sent:* 14 November 2019 17:39
>> *To:* DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
>> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Errors in EEBO
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> ‘Not sure if this is the right group to whom I should address this
>> question, but perhaps someone has been in the same situation and has an
>> elegant solution?
>>
>>
>>
>> A researcher looking at an STC item in our collection pointed out to me
>> the reproduction in EEBO purporting to be that edition is, in fact, *not*.
>> As it happens, it was our copy from which EEBO’s reproduction was
>> originally made, and they are clearly not the same. I’ve written to
>> ProQuest and that information has been forwarded for review–but I’m not
>> holding my breath.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would it be proper to make some kind of note in our catalog
>> record—possibly in the holding?--about the discrepancy? This isn’t first
>> time this has happened with digital versions of our rare books, but
>> increasingly I feel motivated to do more than sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you so much for any thoughts & wisdom you may have on this,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>
>> Mary Person
>>
>> Rare Books Cataloger/Reference Librarian
>>
>> Historical & Special Collections
>>
>> Harvard Law School Library
>>
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