[DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 187, Issue 1

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Dear Erin,

Thank you for your quick answer! I will update our cataloguing policy accordingly.

All the best,

Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho
Bibliothécaire responsable du traitement documentaire des collections iconographiques et de l'ISNI
Direction des métadonnées et de la normalisation bibliographiques
Bibliothèque et Archives nationales du Québec

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Montréal (Québec) H2G 3H1
Téléphone : (514) 873-1101, poste 3730
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Today's Topics:

   1. how to code languages for visual documents that are
      essentially non-verbal (L'?cuyer-Coelho)
   2. Re: how to code languages for visual documents that are
      essentially non-verbal (Erin Blake)

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Dear RBMS colleagues,

I would like to submit a question regarding the coding of language(s) in the MARC records fixed fields. For our collection of original prints and drawings, we have always used the code "zxx" in 008:35 unless text was printed on the source of information. In other words, when cataloguing an engraving with the title penciled under the image, we would not take into account the penciled text and would use the code zxx. Looking however at the PPOC, I saw examples where the language of manuscript information present in the source of information appears to be coded (e.g. https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2010647308/, where the coding "eng" probably relates to the annotation "Artist's proof").
In MARC 21, I found the following information : "For all other still images, including original or historical graphic material and opaque and non-opaque graphic material, and for three-dimensional artifacts, subfield $a contains the code(s) of languages associated with the material, i.e., captions or other text associated with the item or collection that are part of the chief source of information." No distinction seems to be made based on whether the text is printed or handwritten ... I also checked the DCM, but I did not find anything relevant to this issue.

What do you think is the best practice? Should I continue to code "zxx" or take into account the language of the text handwritten on documents (including numbering statements and title)?

As always, many thanks for sharing your cataloguing wisdom with me :)

Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho
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From: Erin Blake <erin.blake.folger at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] how to code languages for visual documents that
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It depends on the nature of the handwritten text. In the case of an artist's proof, the annotation saying so belongs to the print "as issued"
so it counts as language content. It's not that a curator did some research years later, determined it was an artist's proof, then hand-wrote that on the sheet (because that's not how artist's proofs work: they're prints from a limited edition that are reserved for the artist?s personal use, so the phrase "Artist's proof" or "A/P" gets hand-written on them instead of a limited edition number).

Similarly, if the artist hand-wrote a title in the lower margin of a limited edition print, that counts as "language content". If, on the other hand, a dealer hand-wrote the catalogue raisonn? title two centuries later, it doesn't count.

Erin.

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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 3:32 PM L'?cuyer-Coelho, Marie-Chantal < MC.Coelho at banq.qc.ca> wrote:

> Dear RBMS colleagues,
>
>
>
> I would like to submit a question regarding the coding of language(s)
> in the MARC records fixed fields. For our collection of original
> prints and drawings, we have always used the code "zxx" in 008:35
> unless text was printed on the source of information. In other words,
> when cataloguing an engraving with the title penciled under the image,
> we would not take into account the penciled text and would use the
> code zxx. Looking however at the PPOC, I saw examples where the
> language of manuscript information present in the source of information appears to be coded (e.g.
> https://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2010647308/, where the coding ?eng?
> probably relates to the annotation ?Artist?s proof?).
>
> In MARC 21, I found the following information : ?For all other still
> images, including original or historical graphic material and opaque
> and non-opaque graphic material, and for three-dimensional artifacts,
> subfield $a contains the code(s) of languages associated with the
> material, i.e., captions or other text associated with the item or
> collection that are part of the chief source of information.? No
> distinction seems to be made based on whether the text is printed or
> handwritten ? I also checked the DCM, but I did not find anything relevant to this issue.
>
>
>
> What do you think is the best practice? Should I continue to code
> "zxx" or take into account the language of the text handwritten on
> documents (including numbering statements and title)?
>
>
>
> As always, many thanks for sharing your cataloguing wisdom with me :)
>
>
>
>
>
> *Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho*
>
> Biblioth?caire responsable du traitement documentaire des collections
> iconographiques et de l?ISNI
>
> Direction des m?tadonn?es et de la normalisation bibliographiques
>
> Biblioth?que et Archives nationales du Qu?bec
>
>
>
> 2275, rue Holt
>
> Montr?al (Qu?bec) H2G 3H1
>
> T?l?phone : (514) 873-1101, poste 3730
>
> mc.coelho at banq.qc.ca
>
>
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