[DCRM-L] Cataloging Question - how to catalog differences in publisher's bindings

[Sarah Stanhope]

Hi Deborah,

Thank you for your advice on cataloging variant bindings. I am glad that
you mentioned putting "different sizes on different records." The two items
I was cataloging had examples of different sub-manifestations, but there
were also other related sub-manifestations that were of different sizes.
Thank you for helping me to sort out the complexities that may arise from
these variations in bindings. You answered the question that I wasn't quite
sure how to ask!

With sincere appreciation,
Sarah



On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:41 AM Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>
wrote:

> Although variant bindings would strictly speaking be considered different
> "issues," I concur with Madelene and Randal that it is best to catalog them
> on the same record and make notes about differences. This is the approach
> taken by descriptive bibliographies, such as BAL. Either make a specific
> note about binding variants as is done on the OCLC record Randy mentions,
> or a general note that there are binding variations, with specifics
> associated with particular copies. With 19c books increasingly cataloged
> according to rare material standards, and without definitive evidence from
> publishers' archives, you can't be sure you've got them all described.
>
>
>
> Back when work was being done on DCRM2, the editorial group struggled to
> fit what we called "sub-expressions" or "sub-manifestations" into the IFLA
> LRM. It became less pressing with the new RDA toolkit and the decision to
> present DCRMR as a stand-alone manual. Still, it's an interesting question,
> how to represent sub-expressions/manifestations in a MARC bibliographic
> record.
>
>
>
> OTOH, I would put manifestations with different sizes on different
> records. There's a pretty big difference between 16 cm and 20 cm.
>
> ______________________________
>
> Deborah J. Leslie, MA, MLS | Senior Cataloger | Folger Shakespeare Library
> | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | djleslie at folger.edu |
> www.folger.edu | Opinions her own
>
>
>
> *From:* DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Randal S.
> BRANDT
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 16:43
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Cataloging Question - how to catalog differences
> in publisher's bindings
>
>
>
> Hello Sarah,
>
>
>
> I agree with Madelene that you will most likely want to catalog all copies
> on the same bibliographic record. When publisher's binding variants are
> significant, I usually make a note describing the variants using a 500
> note. However, I can see using a 563 for these types of notes, as well. If
> there is a published description of the variants, I will reference that
> description. Then, I use local notes to identify which of the variants is
> present in our copy(ies). To see an example, look at OCLC# 2981235.
>
>
>
> I have mostly encountered the need for these types of notes in records for
> 19th century American literature titles (Mark Twain, George Sterling, Walt
> Whitman, etc.). That seems to be a time period when publishers (in the U.S.
> at least) were particularly fond of issuing books in a variety of bindings.
>
>
>
> Randal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 12:45 PM Madelene Kinraid <
> madelene.kinraid at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kia ora Sarah,
>
> I think keeping both/ all copies on the same record and recording the
> binding information in a 563 is perfect. You might need to assign copy
> numbers to differentiate, I would use a separate 563 to describe the
> binding of each copy. At our library I would add the binding information in
> a 590 note, but that’s just our practice.
>
> Best wishes
> Madelene
>
>
>
> > On 24/04/2022, at 7:12 AM, Sarah Stanhope <sstanhop at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Good Afternoon All,
> >
> > I have a cataloging question that is hopefully not too obvious. I have
> come across this with mostly special collections items and am a bit unsure
> how to properly catalog these types of books.
> >
> > When you have two books with completely different bindings and the text
> blocks are identical, would you add the binding information to a 563 and
> add both items on the same record?
> >
> > Are there any other fields/notes that you commonly add or would suggest?
> I haven't really come across this scenario for items that have different
> dimensions. Other than the binding (sometimes quite different and more
> elaborate than the other), the text block and all the publication
> information matches.
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any suggestions or can point me in the
> right direction!
> >
> > My sincere thanks,
> > Sarah Stanhope
> > Hirsch Library
> > Museum of Fine Arts, Houston
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Randal S. Brandt
>
> The Bancroft Library | University of California, Berkeley
>
> 510.643.2275 | rbrandt at berkeley.edu
>
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