[DCRB-L] DCRM(B) series area

[Deborah J. Leslie]

Thanks for your words. I heard about it when I ran into Bob at the exhibits. Steam was still coming out of his ears as he pulled me over and showed me the PowerPoint printout. We took over a furniture vendors space in the process! I also went immediately over to the ALA store to check AACR2, and saw how her interpretation was feasible, but also believe that it is not a necessary interpretation of the rules. Anyway, to the standard!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jain Fletcher [mailto:jfletchr at library.ucla.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:08 PM
> To: dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu
> Subject: RE: [DCRB-L] DCRM(B) series area
> 
> 
> Deborah,
>    Your message and your words are galvanizing.  Thanks for giving us 
> this update.  I was sitting next to Bob when we both learned 
> of Judy's 
> (ahem) interpretation of the series rule.  She kept telling us (in 
> response to Bob's very vociferous objections) that "We 
> [serials-types] 
> told you [monograph-types] to come to our hearings about this issue 
> because things were changing!" However, when things were changing, I 
> wasn't seeing anything so momentous in this area, or I would 
> have been 
> at hearings--as would many others.  I even went after the 
> session to the
> ALA store to look at the rule in AACR2R (2002).  I didn't see 
> then and I
> still don't see anything written there (Ch. 1 & 2) that changes the 
> practice we have been using. In fact, IMO, the only thing the 
> added Ch. 
> 12 stuff does is give better guidance on how to make SARs--both the 
> title and the xrefs--but not how to *transcribe* (yes, the 
> word used in 
> Ch. 1-2) the series in a monograph record.  I realized 
> afterwards that 
> Judy's (ahem) narrow take on this matter has come because she is so 
> focused in her own work on "big picture" series/serials issues.  
> 
> Still, no matter what transpires (tho' I agree with you: "This will 
> not stand!"), I found myself thinking during that presentation that I 
> was glad we had developed the General Principles, so that we could 
> diverge from AACR2 when needed.  (In fact, I'm not sure if I said at 
> the meeting, but I do think we may want to use FRBR as our 
> foundational principles, even while trying to correlate with AACR2 as 
> much as possible.) 
> 					Thanks again, Jain
> **Note to self: re-sub to AutoCat--it sounds like it's 
> finally getting 
> interesting again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:42:04 -0500 "Deborah J. Leslie" 
> <DJLeslie at folger.edu> wrote:
> 
> >  I also want to reassure everyone on this list that many people are 
> considerably angry about this and determined not to let the 
> 4xx spiral 
> off its transcription identity.  Several of us ran into some 
> LC people 
> by chance in Philadelphia, and THEY brought the topic up. 
> Although for 
> DCRM we can conceivably ignore the interpretation Judy Kuhagen has 
> given to the constellation of rules governing series transcription, 
> this is something much larger than ourselves and should be tackled on 
> that level. The waters have been stirred up. "This will not 
> stand" (to 
> quote myself in a moment of impassioned outrage).
> > 
> > ___________________________
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> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Maxwell [mailto:robert_maxwell at byu.edu] 
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
> > > To: dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu
> > > Subject: RE: [DCRB-L] DCRM(B) series area
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Richard & al.:
> > > 
> > > You are not the only one unhappy about this, and you 
> should know that
> > > discussion of the issue is about to begin on the CC:DA list. 
> > > 
> > > As ACRL liaison to CC:DA and representing the BSC I have also 
> > > written a note of protest to our JSC representatives.
> > > 
> > > Robert L. Maxwell
> > > Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
> > > Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
> > > 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> > > Brigham Young University
> > > Provo, UT 84602
> > > (801)422-5568 
> 
> Jain Fletcher 
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