[DCRM-L] Introduction: question re: FRBR terms

[Deborah J. Leslie]

Thanks, Annie and John. I'll take this as a mandate to change the text
unless I hear any howls of outrage from the field. 
 

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[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of John Attig
	Sent: Wednesday, 13 September, 2006 14:03
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	Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] Introduction: question re: FRBR terms
	
	

	I think I'm responsible for this wording, and I'm not sure what
I was trying to accomplish.  I could give a long answer and attempt to
make sense of what is currently there, but I think that the short answer
-- the change it to "expression of a work" -- is preferable.
	
	        John
	
	At 09:20 PM 9/12/2006, Deborah J. Leslie wrote:
	

		I think you 're right, Ryan, that work > expression >
manifestation is supposed to be a strict hierarchical progression. That
wording, however, has been that way from gamma (when it first appeared).
I am vaguely aware that the concept of expression has proven especially
tricky as the FRBR principles are being worked out. In any case, let me
get in touch with our local FRBR experts (all of whom happen to be on
this list). John and Annie -you wrote the original position paper for
Group 6- and Matthew, who goes around the world giving talks about FRBR,
can you verify the intention of the following first principle of DCRM
construction, which starts out:
		Intro 3.1.1.  Users are able to distinguish clearly
among different manifestations of an expression or work
		The ability to distinguish among different
manifestations of an expression or work is critical to the user tasks of
identifying and selecting bibliographic resources. 
		 
		  
		 
		
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		201 East Capitol St., S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 
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On Behalf Of Ryan Hildebrand
		Sent: 08 September 2006 13:42
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		The Introduction speaks of users' ability to
"distinguish clearly among different manifestations of an expression or
work" (see Intro 3.1.1. and following paragraph, and 3.2.2.). I'm not
exactly sure what we are trying to say here, or how we mean this to be
interpreted. In common parlance we often speak of a manifestation of a
work with the expression implied, but is it not physically impossible to
have manifestation of a work, without the expression, as the sentence
suggests? What would be the difference between a manifestation of an
expression vs. the manifestation of a work? Should the phrase be changed
to "Users are able to distinguish clearly among different manifestations
of an expression of a work"?
		
		Apologies if this has already been discussed.
		
		--Ryan
		
		
		On 9/5/2006 6:53 PM, Deborah J. Leslie wrote:
		
		Dear Colleagues,
		
		I have just posted the latest version of DCRM(B) on the
DCRM(B) revision page. Also posted are a (very informal!) list of the
changes since the last version, our editorial checklist, and
instructions for proofreaders.
http://www.folger.edu/bsc/dcrb/dcrmtext.html
<http://www.folger.edu/bsc/dcrb/dcrmtext.html> 
		
		Speaking of whom, if, after returning from your summer
holidays, you have only just seen my request for proofreaders for
DCRM(B), please know that it is not too late to sign on! We can use as
many pairs of eyes as are volunteered. 
		
		Specific proofreading assignments forthcoming (but not
tonight).
		
		Best,
		
		Deborah
		
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		http://www.folger.edu/bsc/index.html
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