[DCRM-L] Area 2 comments

[Manon Theroux]

The presence of the span of page numbers makes the meaning of the 
note clear, to me at least.

And the fact that rule 2B5.2 is specifically talking about situations 
when you *don't* transcribe an edition statement ("If the publication 
contains *only* a statement that refers to another edition ... do not 
transcribe the information as an edition statement and do not supply 
an edition statement based on the information.") - this implies the 
note isn't supporting an edition statement.

LCRI 2.7B18. "Contents" has examples of this kind of informal contents note:

500 ## $a "Life cycle of the liver fluke": leaves 75-89.
500 ## $a "Types of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by 
Mei Lin": p. [310]-[375].

And here is the example in our own DCRM(B) rule 7B16.1:

"List of the author's unpublished poems": p. 151-158

The meaning of the note is actually crucial to determining which 
punctuation is correct. We can't have a blanket statement that 
anything in quotes should always to be followed by a dash because it 
isn't true.

If this example is truly seen as problematic, then maybe we can deal 
with it in the editorial comment? Something like this:

Optional note: "Preface to the first edition": p. 5-7
(Editorial comment: The publication is not the first edition; the 
cataloger has opted to provide an informal contents note indicating 
the publication contains the preface to the first edition)

-Manon

P.S. Randy is correct in his earlier posting that in a true quotation 
note, the abbreviation for the single page number would be upper-case.



At 11:35 AM 9/20/2006, Alex Thurman wrote:
>Also, I don't think the meaning of the note is certain without the 
>book in hand. It could be understood as a quote given to support an 
>edition statement.
>
>--On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:08 AM -0400 "Deborah J. 
>Leslie" <DJLeslie at FOLGER.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>It seems to me that the deciding factor should not be the meaning of the
>>note, but the punctuation of the note. After quotation marks, can we say
>>(or imply via examples) that a dash rather than a colon is appropriate?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>______________________________________________________
>>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.
>>Chair, RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee
>>Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library
>>201 East Capitol St., S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003
>>djleslie at folger.edu  |  202.675-0369  |  http://www.folger.edu
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
>>Behalf Of Manon Theroux
>>Sent: Wednesday, 20 September, 2006 11:01
>>To: DCRM Revision Group List
>>Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] Area 2 comments
>>
>>
>>
>>I think it is correct as it stands. It is an informal contents note, not
>>a quotation note. It is saying that on pages 5-7 you will find the text
>>called "Preface to the first edition." If it were a quotation, it would
>>give only a single page number and the punctuation would be as Alex
>>suggests.
>>
>>-Manon
>>
>>At 09:27 PM 9/19/2006, Deborah J. Leslie wrote:
>>
>>
>>I think you're right, Alex. I'll plan to replace the colon with a dash
>>unless I hear a reasoned objection.
>>__________________________________________
>>Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.
>>Chair, RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee
>>http://www.folger.edu/bsc/index.html
>>Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare Library
>>201 East Capitol St., S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003
>>djleslie at folger.edu || 202.675-0369 || http://www.folger.edu
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [ mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
>>Behalf Of Alex Thurman
>>Sent: 12 September 2006 11:52
>>To: DCRM Revision Group List
>>Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Area 2 comments
>>
>>I second Will's comments, and add one more:
>>
>>The example in 2B5.2 reads:
>>    Optional note: "Preface to the first edition": p. 5-7
>>
>>Should the colon after the closing quotation mark be replaced by a
>>double
>>dash, following 7A4.2?
>>
>>--Alex
>
>
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