[DCRM-L] BIBCO Standard Record

Thu Oct 15 11:10:54 MDT 2009

Hi, 

   My guess is that the BSR applies to "modern" materials only. Bob
knows this (since we were on the group that responded to it, on behalf
of the DCRB Core), but part of our response was BSC needed to have
people representing our "constituency of catalogers" consider the DCRB
Core against the new BSR.  My guess is that when this report mentions
"other formats", it just means the other materials that already had been
cover by a "core" standard.  There's another factor in favor of my
belief; they are careful to mention that AACR2 is intended for use by
catalogers knowledgeable in AACR2, LCRIs and the like-no mention of the
DCRMs.  So, I have every reason to believe that the final paragraph is
meant to include DCRB Core as another "format": 

"Another issue is how the BSR is expanded from the current proposal to a
wider range of formats. With the adoption of the BSR for printed
monographs, the BIBCO full and core standards cannot be abolished
immediately because they are still needed for all other formats. PCC
needs a transition plan for the BSR and the older standards until such
time as the BSR is adopted for all formats."

   Bob is correct to be concerned, however, because if this
interpretation is not clear to us, then it is not clear to anyone. My
original reason for strongly urging that the RBMS BSC create a DCRB Core
(in 1997 or so) was that it would be in place and recognized as the way
to treat earlier materials. Without a new "BSR Rare" (or, DCRM(B) Core
or whatever) in place, that "trigger" (to use another set of rules on
older materials) is not present.  

   I can check with a few of the members of the BSR TG to see if my
interpretation is correct. Then I might also see if anyone can give us
ideas on how BSC can request that they make a clarification to their
report that shows that DCRB Core is one of those formats that will need
to be considered for the BSR downgrade ...  oops, I mean, upgrade.
(Yeah, that's right!     ;-)
--Jain

Jain Fletcher
Principal Cataloger & Head, Technical Services Division
Department of Special Collections
Young Research Library - UCLA Box 951575
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1575

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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
Behalf Of Auyong, Dorothy
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:19 AM
To: DCRM Revision Group List
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] BIBCO Standard Record

Bob,

I share your concern re: the new BIBCO standard record requirement for
the 050.  We haven't assigned classification numbers to any of our Rare
Materials here at the Huntington since before I was born.  To create
full-blown LC call numbers for all of our original cataloging would
require a fairly serious investment in workflow and re-training.  I
admit to being rusty beyond belief in the skill.

Dorothy Auyong

Principal Rare Book Cataloger

Huntington Library

dauyong at huntington.org

From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:03 PM
To: DCRM Revision Group List
Subject: [DCRM-L] BIBCO Standard Record

As most of you know, the BIBCO standard record has now been approved
(see message and link below).  One of my catalogers points out that this
seems to blast out of the water DCRM(B) Core, since core is now
obsolete. The main problem with this is that in DCRM(B) Core 050 was not
required; this was the main reason we used the core here. 050 is
required in the new BIBCO Standard Record. I know many of us commented
on this specific issue to the PCC Policy Committee, but our comments
appear to have fallen on deaf ears. Is anyone involved in this standard
on DCRM-L? If so, could you comment?

Would the chair of Bibliographic Standards care to request clarification
and/or protest? This change will greatly diminish our BYU PCC
contributions in areas where we use idiosyncratic call number schemes
and do not want to take the time to create full blown LC call numbers
for 050 (e.g. series of pamphlets). (Until we get clarification on this
issue we intend to continue to code DCRM(B) PCC records without 050 as
core.)

These are the members of the committee that created the BIBCO Standard
Record policy: 

Members: Magda El-Sherbini, Ohio State University, Rebecca Malek-Wiley,
Tulane University, Caroline Miller, University of California, Los
Angeles, Louise Ratliff, University of California, Los Angeles, Carolyn
Sturtevant, Coop, Library of Congress 

Iris Wolley, Columbia University (coordinator) 

Liaisons: Joe Kiegel, Standing Committee on Standards, University of
Washington, Rebecca Lubas, Standing Committee on Automation, University
of New Mexico, Bob Wolverton, Standing Committee on Training,
Mississippi State University

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell

Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian

Genre/Form Authorities Librarian

6728 Harold B. Lee Library

Brigham Young University

Provo, UT 84602

(801)422-5568 

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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:PCCLIST at loc.gov] On
Behalf Of Antony Robert David Franks

Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:01 PM

To: PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV

Subject: BIBCO Standard Record Approved

The PCC Policy Committee (PoCo) has approved the creation of a BIBCO

Standard Record (BSR) for monographic materials.   The requirements for

the BSR for monographs were laid out in the final report of the Task
Group on BIBCO Standard Record Requirements, available from the PCC
Website at: http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/bibco/BSR-Final-Report.pdf 

The Policy Committee will be discussing the details of BSR
implementation at its upcoming meeting (November 5 and 6, 2009) at the
Library of Congress.  The PoCo will also consider the process of
creating BSR

guidelines for other formats.   Details will be forthcoming after the

November meetings in Washington.

Anthony R.D. Franks

Head, Cooperative Programs Section

Cooperative and Instructional Programs Division Library of Congress

202-707-2822 (voice)

202-252-2082 (fax)

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