[DCRM-L] Concealed editions in OCLC - Shorter question

[Kate Moriarty]

Richard,

I would still be inclined to create a new record for your book, include the
note Deborah suggested, and risk the de-duping efforts of OCLC in the hopes
that they have heard us and won't merge 040 dcrmb, etc. records. Since it's
a new edition in rare book considerations it could be helpful to have that
recognized explicitly through the presence of a separate record.

I'm dealing with concealed editions now with a couple of records I'm in the
process of enhancing (and, I'm sorry, I have locked them for 24 hours since
I'm going back to them occasionally but will replace them soon). The title:
*Conformite des ceremonies chinoises avec l'idolatrie grecque et romaine* /
Noel Alexandre (1700). In this case two separate records already existed:

OCLC 6206673 [record lists 202 p.]
OCLC 223139676 [record lists 211 p.]

We have a copy of each and can confirm that there was a complete re-setting
of type, resulting in one edition being 4 leaves longer than the other.
Another noticeable difference is that the 202 p. edition has the date "1700"
on the title page, while the 211 p. edition has "MDCC." Otherwise, the
content appears to be the same and there is no statement indicating that one
is a new edition.

In this case, I'm inclined *not* to add a note pointing out the differences
since the difference in pagination was enough cause for the creation of
separate records originally. But I think I would still create a separate
record in your case and describe the differences in a note..

Reactions? Concealed editions do come up so I appreciate the discussion.

-Kate


On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Erin Blake <EBlake at folger.edu> wrote:

> The discussion of bracketed edition statements Richard is remembering might
> have been from the review of the DCRM(G) draft, which does allow supplied
> statements in the 250.
>
> In the case of graphic materials, it's justified not only by the special
> needs of pictures (where transcribable statements are unusual) but also by
> the principle of not differing from AACR2 unless there's a rare-materials
> reason. AACR2 8.2B3 says:
>
> If a graphic <
> http://desktop.loc.gov/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=sethitdoc&doc_hit=1&doc_searchcontext=jump&s_context=jump&s_action=newSearch&s_method=applyFilter&s_fieldSearch=folioinfobase%7CAacr2&s_fieldSearch=foliodestination%7CGraphicSLASHglossary&s_type=phrase&hash=GraphicSLASHglossary>
>  item <
> http://desktop.loc.gov/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=sethitdoc&doc_hit=1&doc_searchcontext=jump&s_context=jump&s_action=newSearch&s_method=applyFilter&s_fieldSearch=folioinfobase%7CAacr2&s_fieldSearch=foliodestination%7CItemSLASHglossary&s_type=phrase&hash=ItemSLASHglossary>
>  lacks an edition <
> http://desktop.loc.gov/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=sethitdoc&doc_hit=1&doc_searchcontext=jump&s_context=jump&s_action=newSearch&s_method=applyFilter&s_fieldSearch=folioinfobase%7CAacr2&s_fieldSearch=foliodestination%7CEditionCOLONSPACEOtherSPACEmaterialsSLASHglossary&s_type=phrase&hash=EditionCOLONSPACEOtherSPACEmaterialsSLASHglossary>
>  statement but is known to contain significant changes from other editions,
> supply a suitable brief statement in the language and script of the title
> proper <
> http://desktop.loc.gov/template.htm?view=document&doc_action=sethitdoc&doc_hit=1&doc_searchcontext=jump&s_context=jump&s_action=newSearch&s_method=applyFilter&s_fieldSearch=folioinfobase%7CAacr2&s_fieldSearch=foliodestination%7CTitleSPACEproperSLASHglossary&s_type=phrase&hash=TitleSPACEproperSLASHglossary>
>  and enclose it in square brackets.
>
>                Wooded landscape with church, cow, and figure [GMD] / T.
> Gainsborough fecit aqua forte ; J. Wood perfecit. - [3rd state]
>
>                The story of the Pied Piper [GMD] / Encyclopaedia Britannica
> Educational Corporation. - [New ed.]
>
> I realize this is small consolation in the current situation, but maybe it
> would help open the door to a revised instruction in the next edition of
> DCRM(B)?
>
>   EB.
>
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