[DCRM-L] FW: [PCCLIST] Relationship Designator TG Report Open for Comment

[Noble, Richard]

I can't imagine anything more maddening than having to submit the terms
one-by-one as needed, and wait for approval, in the course of simply trying
to get work done. Those "not ready for RDA" *access points* will surely
slow us down enough. Do our front offices have any idea what we're spending
our time on??

RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN UNIVERSITY
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-3384 : RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU



On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Lapka, Francis <francis.lapka at yale.edu>wrote:

>  I agree, this does merit a response from the DCRM community, esp. our
> Controlled Vocabularies group (that is, if they aren’t involved already).*
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> The report says:****
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> **a)      **In PCC records, a cataloger must use a term from a list in
> the RDA appendix; terms outside the list (such as RBMS terms) may be used
> only if the cataloger has “also submitted the term to PCC SCS for
> inclusion in RDA” (section 5.2 of the report).****
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> **b)      **“These guidelines apply to all new PCC records, whether
> created under AACR2 or RDA, and to all existing records upgraded to PCC
> standard” (section 4 of the report).****
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> Essentially, the use of RBMS relationship designators (those not in RDA)
> would be invalid in any new PCC cataloging, under the guidelines proposed
> by this report. Is that correct?****
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> Is the PCC task group proposing that the limited number of terms listed in
> the report (section C.5) be added to the RDA Appendices, and if so, why
> those but not others?****
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> Francis****
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> _________________________________****
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> *Francis Lapka, Catalog Librarian*
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> Yale Center for British Art, Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts****
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> 203.432.9672    francis.lapka at yale.edu****
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> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Noble, Richard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:17 PM
> *To:* DCRM Revision Group List
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] FW: [PCCLIST] Relationship Designator TG Report
> Open for Comment****
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> Innocent (i.e. uninformed) question: Is the list of terms in C.5
> consciously and prescriptively limited vis-à-vis our existing vocabulary?
> Or do the many remaining terms await the writing of scope notes to make
> them acceptable under PCC guidelines?****
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> RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN UNIVERSITY
> PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-3384 : RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU
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> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Auyong, Dorothy <dauyong at huntington.org>
> wrote:****
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> Worth perusing and adding the 2 cents from the Rare Books Community I
> think.****
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> Dorothy Auyong****
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> Principal Rare Book Cataloger****
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> Huntington Library****
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> dauyong at huntington.org****
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> *From:* Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:
> PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV] *On Behalf Of *Philip Schreur
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:48 AM
> *To:* PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV
> *Subject:* [PCCLIST] Relationship Designator TG Report Open for Comment***
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> All,****
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> I am extremely pleased to announce that the final report of the
> Relationship Designator Task Group is now available on the PCC website:***
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> Relationship Designator TG Report
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> http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/rda/RDA%20Task%20groups%20and%20charges/PCC-Relat-Desig-TG-report.rtf
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> The group was chaired by Naun Chew and was asked to provide a policy
> statement and guidelines for providing relationship designators in PCC RDA
> bibliographic records. In particular, they were asked to:****
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> 1.     Prepare a policy recommendation and supporting PCC guidelines to
> describe when and how to provide relationship designators in bibliographic
> records, and for any related changes in authority records.****
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> 2.      Provide recommendations and guidance on what PCC catalogers should
> do when a needed term is not listed in the applicable RDA appendix.****
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> 3.     Frame the guidelines within a definition and description of the
> problem so that both the concept and the implementation details will be
> understood by the PCC and broader professional community****
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> 4.     Recommend an implementation strategy and timetable for these
> guidelines.****
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> The report has made a number of excellent recommendations.  Please read
> the document carefully, we are very much interested in your comments.  The
> comment period will be open until the end of this month (Dec. 31st) and
> comments can be directed to SurveyMonkey:https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TZ6DZX5.
> All the best.
>
> Philip****
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> Philip E. Schreur****
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> Head, Metadata Department****
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> Chair, Program for Cooperative Cataloging****
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> Stanford University****
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> 650-723-2454****
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> 650-725-1120 (fax)****
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