[DCRM-L] Signature question

Marilyn McClaskey m-mccl at umn.edu
Wed Dec 26 16:46:47 MST 2012


In my copy the map precedes the title page.  I 
also have a second plate at p. 168 (alphabets of 
these peoples) that I don't recall others mentioning--

Your solution looks logical.  I just wonder what 
happened to the a and A gatherings.  And yes, I 
was suprised to find the gatherings of 2.

Thanks.

At 05:24 PM 12/26/2012, you wrote:
>I wonder if the stub might be from the map - in 
>the Texas copy reproduced by ECCO, the map 
>follows p. viii, so if there is a map in a 
>similar position in your copy, the stub could 
>logically be either before p. v or after p. 4 
>(before c1 or after B2).  If the map were bound 
>as a frontispiece, a stub after b2 would also be logical.
>
>Given that the rest of the book is gathered in 
>twos (unusual for a quarto at this time, I'd 
>think), and what you can observe, I'd be inclined to go with:
>
>b^2 (b2 signed 'b') c^2 B-5D^2.
>
>and make any note that seems appropriate to 
>record the degree of uncertainty in the formulaic statement.
>
>John
>
>
>On Dec 26, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Marilyn McClaskey <m-mccl at umn.edu> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the guidance, John.
> >
> > The History of Sumatra, containing an account 
> of the government ... / by William Marsden, 
> F.R.S. ...   London : Printed for the author 
> and sold by Thomas Payne ... MDCCLXXXIII.
> >
> > The book is well and truly bound and the 
> pages so deep that I cannot tell the structure 
> without doing serious damage.  I can see, 
> however, that there is a stub between b and c, 
> partially pasted to the back of b, but b is 
> sewn in deeply, not dependent upon that 
> stub.  I tried tugging at it a bit and it seems 
> more like to be [blank] and b conjugate, then c 
> and [blank] conjugate.  And actually, it may 
> indeed be the stub that is conjugate with the 
> first blank and b was pasted onto it before 
> binding (which is likely contemporary with the publication)
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > At 04:32 PM 12/26/2012, you wrote:
> >> The first question that needs to be answered 
> is what the structure of those leaves is.  Do 
> they form two gatherings of two leaves each, or 
> one gathering of four leaves?  (Or is one or more a singleton?)
> >>
> >> When asking this sort of question, it's also 
> useful to provide information about the work and edition, for context.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> John Lancaster
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 26, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Marilyn McClaskey <m-mccl at umn.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a book that is signed perfectly all 
> the way thru from B-5D².  There are 4 leaves 
> preceding B1.  They are signed [blank] b c 
> [blank]. The first is the tp, and the other 
> three are the preface.  Any clue how I would record that?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Marilyn McClaskey
> >> > Rare Books Cataloger
> >> > University of Minnesota Libraries
> >> > m-mccl at umn.edu
> >> > (612) 626-0127
> >
> > Marilyn McClaskey
> > Rare Books Cataloger
> > University of Minnesota Libraries
> > m-mccl at umn.edu
> > (612) 626-0127

Marilyn McClaskey
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