[DCRM-L] Fill-in colophon?

[Heintzelman, Matthew]

It's not entirely pertinent (since the pictures are of title pages, not colophons), but on Thursday I posted twenty title pages from dissertations (ca. 1588-1590) that had been bound into one volume on my blog:

http://www.booksfromthehmmlbasement.blogspot.com/

Some of these also have the blank space for the day. If you click on one of the images, you should get a slideshow of the different title pages.

Peace,

Matt Heintzelman

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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Noble, Richard
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Fill-in colophon?

This is a classic academic disputation, Fr. Gentili having been the respondent. Though it is apparently not so represented on the title page, the note is equivalent to the sort of footnote that appears in articles first presented as conference papers or whatever. The blank spaces do seem to indicate that this is the standard format for the context of this publication, in this case never completed because printing couldn't be held up, or because nobody cared enough to get it in.

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Nickeson, Walter <wnickeson at library.rochester.edu<mailto:wnickeson at library.rochester.edu>> wrote:
I guess my "colophon" isn't really that, although it's in the place of one-it's the last piece of printing in the volume-but does this mean it's a thesis? "Theoremata hec disputabuntur Rome in Aedibus S. Maria super Mineruam pro solemni celebratione Generalis Capituli fratrum Praedicatorum, Respondete eodem Fr. Deodato Gentili Genuensi Lectore." Followed by the line I gave below. If it's not a thesis, is it more an announcement of a public event? But why would the time be buried on the last page?

The title is: Almae vrbis mystica descriptio, OCLC#10748339.

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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] On Behalf Of Noble, Richard
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Is this by any chance an academic thesis? Is the wording of the colophon related to the day and hour of the presentation? On title pages these were occasionally left blank, though I don't know whether this was a matter of small blocks of standing type being used for boilerplate, or just setting of the boilerplate portion before the schedule was known to the printer, sometimes to be completed, sometimes not. I don't know that I've seen a real colophon dated to the hour, though others with more experience in this period and place may have done.

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Nickeson, Walter <wnickeson at library.rochester.edu<mailto:wnickeson at library.rochester.edu>> wrote:
I have a book published in Genoa in 1589 whose colophon ends:

Anno MDLXXXIX. Mense Maij. Die     & Hora

There is a blank space following "Die" a little wider than that word.
"Hora" is the last word of the paragraph, so the whole bottom half of
the page following it is blank space.

Are the blanks for the date and time to be filled in by hand, or were
they intended to be filled in with type later but perhaps left unset by
accident? I've never (in very limited experience) seen anything like
this.

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