[DCRM-L] DPC for Area 4, manufacture elements

[Noble, Richard]

I'd hate to see something like a Wikipedia rule concerning cataloger
judgement, that being what we mean here by presumption. Direct
documentation is rarely available in such cases as those given by way of
example. We often have little to go on except our presumptions, based on
the 10,000+ books we've dealt with. The results of not presuming are not
always neutral; that is, the resulting description may read as a positive
assertion that the facts are other than what they presumably are.

Anyway, where I feel that things are a bit up in the air, I have two rules:
1) Do not mislead. 2) When in doubt, explain in such a way that a reader of
the record is made aware of another human being's conscious judgment--in
other words, do not appear to  invoke the spurious authority of
standardized anonymity.

RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN UNIVERSITY
PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-3384 : RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU


On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>wrote:

> I like Manon's revision very much. I wonder, though, if we are opening the
> door for uncertainty too wide by the use of "presumed."
>
> Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Head of Cataloging, Folger Shakespeare
> Library
> djleslie at folger.edu | 202.675-0369 | www.folger.edu
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
> Behalf Of Manon Theroux
> Sent: Sunday, 16 September, 2012 22:27
> To: DCRM Revision Group List
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] DPC for Area 4, manufacture elements
>
> I pretty much agree with everything Deborah says. The revision to
> 4A6.2.2 that she supports is exactly what I proposed during the BSC
> meeting at ALA Annual (when Jain first raised the issue).
>
> I should say that in August, after thinking some more about it, I made a
> follow-up suggestion to Jain privately, proposing the following revision of
> 4A6.2.2 (which is only slightly different than what I proposed at ALA
> Annual):
>
> PROPOSED
> 4A6.2.2. However, if the manufacturer is known or presumed not to be the
> publisher, distributor, etc., transcribe the manufacturer statement as such
> according to the instructions in 4E, 4F, and 4G. If the identity of the
> publisher, distributor, etc., can be determined or reasonably surmised,
> supply the name of the publisher, distributor, etc., in square brackets.
>
> CURRENT
> 4A6.2.2. However, if the manufacturer is known not to be the publisher,
> distributor, etc., and the identity of the publisher, distributor, etc.,
> can be determined or reasonably surmised, supply the name of the publisher,
> distributor, etc., in square brackets and transcribe the manufacturer
> statement as such according to the instructions in 4E, 4F, and 4G.
>
> --
> Manon Théroux
> Head of Technical Services
> U.S. Senate Library
> SR-B15 Russell Senate Office Building
> Washington, DC 20510
> (202) 224-3833
>
>
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