[DCRM-L] "[the]" versus "[th]e" (but definitely not "ye")

[Jennifer K. Nelson]

oops, in my second paragraph I meant to say "I think it makes much more 
sense in any case - whether in printed books or in manuscripts - to 
transcribe a Tironian note as *[et]*, when what it stands for is the 
word "et", not the symbol "&".

!!!!!


On 8/21/13 1:05 PM, Jennifer K. Nelson wrote:
> Hi Larry, everyone,
>
> Just to clarify: this came up in a general discussion, not 
> specifically as related to manuscripts. I think our conversation 
> started when we were looking at Appendix G to DCRM(B), specifically 
> the instruction in G2 where it says to transcribe both the Tironian 
> note and the ampersand as an ampersand (as well as "[Tironian note]c" 
> as &c.). I think its the last example in the grid.
>
> Personally, I think it makes much more sense in any case - whether in 
> printed books or in manuscripts - to transcribe a Tironian note as an 
> ampersand, when what it stands for is the word [et], not the symbol "&".
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jenny
>
>
> On 8/21/13 12:00 PM, Laurence S. Creider wrote:
>> An additional argument of Jennifer's suggestion is that AMREMM 
>> follows the
>> same procedure, to wit,
>> "0F8. Expand all suspensions, contractions, nomina sacra, Tironian 
>> notes,
>> symbols and other abbreviations to the full form, enclosing suppolied
>> letters or words in square brackets. ... Do not reproduce Tironian 
>> notae,
>> the ampersand, or other symbols, but instead supply in square 
>> brackets the
>> letters or words for which they stand in the language of the text."
>> The examples give transcription of the ampersand as [et] or [and] or 
>> (this
>> would depend on language), and to translate the Tironian note 7 as 
>> [et] or
>> [and] or ....
>>
>> It would be nice if the same principle was adopted for the post-1600 
>> notes
>> here.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> P.S. My initial reaction was what would Tironian notes be doing in a 
>> 20th
>> century ms, but Wikipedia says they are occasionally used from the 17th
>> century into the 20th.  That is one thing I enjoy about this list; I 
>> learn
>> a great deal.
>>
>

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