[DCRM-L] Symbol used in preliminary signatures

[Barbara Tysinger]

Thanks, Richard! (and others!)

I have the final signature (without the frontispiece or other plates) 
as: pi⁸ A-O⁸ P⁸ (-P8)
I hadn't included the " P⁸ (-P8) " in my earlier message because I 
didn't want to cloud the issue unnecessarily.

Barbara

PS. I wish I could go back to Rare Book School (I was there in 2011 for 
the Rare Books Cataloging course and loved every minute!), but after I 
finish cataloging this group of books, I'm less likely to encounter many 
non-standard collations.


On 4/16/2014 3:01 PM, Noble, Richard wrote:
> As a general rule, the collational formula concerns only those 
> portions of the text that passed through the printing press. In 
> particular, engravings on separate leaves--not printed on an 
> "integral" leaf, that is, a leaf that forms part of the printed 
> sheets--are to be separately accounted for. In a case like yours, I'd note
>
> 8vo: [pi]^8 A-P^8 [$2 signed]; 128 leaves, pages [I-II] III-XVI, 1-237 
> [238-240] + frontispiece portrait and 4 plates ('Lam. 1a'-'Lam. 4a')
>
> This may be wrong in detail--the online pdf loads too slowly to be 
> repeatedly scanned for details--but the final gathering /is/ P, not O. 
> The portrait could just as well face the title page as the first page 
> of text--that's probably a copy-specific matter (to oversimplify a 
> little too radically, printed sheets are the fixed stars, plates are 
> planets--wandering stars).
>
> Time to review chapter five of Bowers' /Principles/, and see whether 
> you can get some funding (or a scholarship) for Rare Book School 
> course G-10, aka Bibliography Boot Camp.
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu 
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>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Barbara Tysinger 
> <btysingr at email.unc.edu <mailto:btysingr at email.unc.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Good afternoon!
>
>     The latest in my series of signature queries...
>
>     I have a book in octavo, the preliminaries are in a single
>     gathering, completely unsigned, followed by an engraved
>     frontispiece singleton (also unsigned), and then the main text
>     block, with the title page being A1.
>
>     My question, should the frontispiece singleton be recorded in the
>     signature statement as: " pi⁸ chi1 A-O⁸ "  or as " pi⁸ 2pi1 A-O⁸
>     "? Or as something else?
>
>     The book in question is:
>
>         /Tratado de las operaciones que deben practicarse en la
>         dentadura, y método para conservaria en buen estado/ ... by
>         Félix Pérez Arroyo. Madrid: Franganillo, 1799.
>
>         http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000081979&page=1
>
>     Thanks!
>
>     Barbara
>     ...................All opinions are entirely my
>     own....................
>
>     Barbara R. Tysinger Phone: (919)966-0949 <tel:%28919%29966-0949>
>     Health Sciences Library Fax: (919)966-1388 <tel:%28919%29966-1388>
>     University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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>     Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7585
>     e-mail: Barbara_Tysinger at unc.edu <mailto:Barbara_Tysinger at unc.edu>
>
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>     Minutia......
>
>

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