[DCRM-L] Symbol used in preliminary signatures

[Noble, Richard]

If P8 can't be identified with a blank leaf (there seem to have been blanks
at the end of the copy reproduced in the online pdf), the better notation
when dealing with a single copy is "P^8(P8 missing, blank?)"--a little
tactic that Bowers suggests, out of the proper place for such a suggestion,
on p. 118 of *Principles*. Is there any chance that it's the leaf on which
the portrait was printed?

Richard

RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Barbara Tysinger <btysingr at email.unc.edu>wrote:

>  Thanks, Richard! (and others!)
>
> I have the final signature (without the frontispiece or other plates) as:
> pi⁸ A-O⁸ P⁸ (-P8)
> I hadn't included the " P⁸ (-P8) " in my earlier message because I didn't
> want to cloud the issue unnecessarily.
>
> Barbara
>
> PS. I wish I could go back to Rare Book School (I was there in 2011 for
> the Rare Books Cataloging course and loved every minute!), but after I
> finish cataloging this group of books, I'm less likely to encounter many
> non-standard collations.
>
>
>
> On 4/16/2014 3:01 PM, Noble, Richard wrote:
>
>  As a general rule, the collational formula concerns only those portions
> of the text that passed through the printing press. In particular,
> engravings on separate leaves--not printed on an "integral" leaf, that is,
> a leaf that forms part of the printed sheets--are to be separately
> accounted for. In a case like yours, I'd note
>
>  8vo: [pi]^8 A-P^8 [$2 signed]; 128 leaves, pages [I-II] III-XVI, 1-237
> [238-240] + frontispiece portrait and 4 plates ('Lam. 1a'-'Lam. 4a')
>
>  This may be wrong in detail--the online pdf loads too slowly to be
> repeatedly scanned for details--but the final gathering *is* P, not O.
> The portrait could just as well face the title page as the first page of
> text--that's probably a copy-specific matter (to oversimplify a little too
> radically, printed sheets are the fixed stars, plates are
> planets--wandering stars).
>
>  Time to review chapter five of Bowers' *Principles*, and see whether you
> can get some funding (or a scholarship) for Rare Book School course G-10,
> aka Bibliography Boot Camp.
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Barbara Tysinger <btysingr at email.unc.edu>wrote:
>
>>  Good afternoon!
>>
>> The latest in my series of signature queries...
>>
>> I have a book in octavo, the preliminaries are in a single gathering,
>> completely unsigned, followed by an engraved frontispiece singleton (also
>> unsigned), and then the main text block, with the title page being A1.
>>
>> My question, should the frontispiece singleton be recorded in the
>> signature statement as: " pi⁸ chi1 A-O⁸ "  or as " pi⁸ 2pi1 A-O⁸ "? Or as
>> something else?
>>
>> The book in question is:
>>
>> *Tratado de las operaciones que deben practicarse en la dentadura, y
>> método para conservaria en buen estado* ... by Félix Pérez Arroyo.
>> Madrid: Franganillo, 1799.
>>
>> http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000081979&page=1
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Barbara
>> ...................All opinions are entirely my own....................
>>
>> Barbara R. Tysinger                                Phone: (919)966-0949
>> Health Sciences Library                            Fax:   (919)966-1388
>> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>> 335 S. Columbia Street, CB# 7585
>> Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7585
>> e-mail: Barbara_Tysinger at unc.edu
>>
>> ......."Non pilus tam tenuis ut secari non possit."-- St. Minutia......
>>
>>
>
>
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