[DCRM-L] Signature statement help

[Randal S. BRANDT]

Thank you, Richard, for the clarification of inserts. I liked the Bowers
example, but wasn't sure if it applied to my book. I'm glad to know that it
does.

And, I do, indeed, know what "p." means -- Just like I know what "i.e.",
"e.g.", "ca." and "sic" mean!

Yr obt RDA svt,



On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Noble, Richard <richard_noble at brown.edu>wrote:

> Bowers, top of p. 220 (you know what "p." means, of course ...) obtains
> here, I think. The first B is an "insert" by virtue of the fact that the
> *signature* is a duplicate inserted into the register of signatures, and
> since the second B is the first signature of the main text series, [A]^2
> [superscript chi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4 is just right. There's no need to consider
> the pagination of B, which might more correctly have been [i] ii-xvi in
> this period (i.e. single numerical series starting roman and changing to
> arabic). There's no need for inflection of [A] because it's not duplicated
> and correctly inferred as such.
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
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>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Randal S. BRANDT <
> rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear collective wisdom,
>>
>> I am cataloging a book with a somewhat unusual signing pattern and am
>> debating (with myself) how best to record it. I do not find adequate help
>> in Bowers. I now bring the debate to you:
>>
>> The book:
>> Mathias, Thomas James. The shade of Alexander Pope on the banks of the
>> Thames (ESTC T93918)
>>
>> The collation:
>> 8vo: 2 unnumbered leaves, unsigned (half-title, title page); pages
>> [1]-16, signed B^8 (preface); pages[17]-86, [2], signed B-E^8 F^4 (text +
>> advertisement leaf)
>>
>> The problem:
>> How to give the preliminary gatherings in the signature statement? So
>> far, I have:
>> [A]^2 [superscript pi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4
>>
>> But, I question that treatment of the preliminary 2 leaf unsigned
>> gathering. I don't really think that the first B gathering is an insert,
>> given that the pagination continues directly from the preface into the main
>> text. But, if it were, it could be handled like the example given in Bowers
>> p. 220:
>> [A]^2 [superscript chi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4
>>
>> Or should the first gathering also receive the pi designation?:
>> [superscript pi][A]^2 [superscript pi]B^8 B-E^8 F^4
>>
>> Many thanks in advance for your advice.
>>
>> --
>> Randal S. Brandt
>> The Bancroft Library | University of California, Berkeley
>> 510.643.2275 | rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu
>>
>
>


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Randal S. Brandt
The Bancroft Library | University of California, Berkeley
510.643.2275 | rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu
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