[DCRM-L] Northern Ireland (and not just England, Scotland and Wales) in 752

[Tony Curwen]

Quite seriously, I do think Erin Blake's point is a good one, the general  
question as well as the specific example.

I wonder how many jurisdictions there are which are commonly recognised  
and referred to by an adjective or a generic noun before the place name?    
United States ...   United Kingdom ...  United Arab Emirates ...    
more?    Maybe Republic of South Africa  (common abbreviation R.S.A., not  
just S.A., which can be confused with South Australia)?  Are these the  
forms that users will normally think of, and does Getty take the same line?

T.C.


On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:41:27 +0100, Tony Curwen <tony.curwen at zen.co.uk>  
wrote:

> Perhaps this one should be put on hold for another three weeks?   Alas,  
> power-brokers, politicians, planners – and people generally – >never  
> seem to have the courtesy and common-sense to consult cataloguers about  
> the implications and likely consequences of their >actions before  
> plunging ahead.  "Disunited Kingdom ... "  ?  "Former United Kingdom ...  
> " ??
>
>> T.C.
> Englishman married to a Scot, living long in lovely west Wales
> Former consultant, CERL
> (It's high time I gave up reading the postings on this list, but they're  
> addictive!)
>
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 22:38:27 +0100, Erin Blake <EBlake at folger.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Does anyone know if there's ever been a campaign to get "United  
>> Kingdom" instead of "Great Britain" as the authorized form of >>the  
>> name in the Library of Congress Authorities file?
>>
>> Our practice is to use LC-NAF as our source for the 752, and to start  
>> with the top order political jurisdiction. Unfortunately, that >>means  
>> we end up with things like  "752 $a Great Britain $b Northern Ireland  
>> $d Belfast" which is just plain wrong.
>>
>> Maybe time for us to  switch to the Getty Thesaurus of Geographic Names  
>> as our source?
>>
>>
>> Having our users search on "United Kingdom of Great Britain and  
>> Northern Ireland" and getting "See: Great Britain" as the result >>is  
>> embarrassing.
>>
>>
>> EB.
>>
>>
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