[DCRM-L] Review of RDA proposals: Week 2

Mon Aug 17 10:49:05 MDT 2015

The BL discussion papers concerning Publication (etc.) information are not easy to digest, but I will take a stab at summarizing some of the major suggestions; and I append my responses.

1. Add entities for Place and Timespan, which may be used to record places and dates of publication (etc.) as related entities.
-- This is logical and deserves our full support (I think). The warrant is apparent in our current practice (e.g., our use of the 752 field to record places).

2. Create an *Imprint* element to record complete (unparsed) statements concerning publication, distribution, or manufacture.
-- I favor this suggestion. If we have a means to record places, agents, and dates as related entities, I don’t think we gain much by parsing the sub-elements of imprint statements. Recording the information in the form and order that it appears, unparsed, would better serve the principle of representation. For non-rare material, it might be sensible to record the place/agent/date as related entities, in addition to, or instead of, the Imprint transcription. In a DCRM description, we likely want to require both.
-- I assume that if imprint information appears in more than one location within the resource, we would need to record more than one Imprint element. The paper says to record each “in the order indicated …”. I wonder if we should consider, as a universal convention with any transcribed element, always recording the source of the transcription (in a related data element). This may sound onerous, but with a well-designed cataloging client and a default array of sources, it could be simple.

3. Create a *Colophon* element to record complete (unparsed) statements concerning production (for unpublished resources).
-- For the same reasons as above, this seem sensible. However the proposed name for the element is problematic.

4. Associate a copyright date – as data – with the Expression, not the Manifestation. Allow for transcription of copyright dates for a Manifestation.
-- I agree with this suggestion. Might it also make sense to broaden the scope of copyright information to include the agents involved, so that a copyright transcription can include the date and/or name of the copyright holder?

5. Remove (deprecate) the existing *aggregate statements* for PPDM information. Provide generic instructions to record elements for place, name and date associated with the manifestation.
-- This is the portion of the paper that confuses me most. I think it proposes to retain the sub-elements in RDA 2.7 – 2.10 (e.g., Place of Publication) while reordering the instructions so that all place elements – for publication, distribution, manufacture, and production -- are grouped together, and so on for names and dates. Places and names would remain transcribed; dates recorded.
-- The change would provide *three* options for recording PPDM information: a) as related entities; b) as unparsed Imprint or Colophon transcriptions; or c) as transcribed sub-elements (parsed). I wonder if this is one alternative too many. While we have a ton of legacy data with PPDM data in the form of parsed transcriptions, I don’t see the benefit of providing that option going forward.

I am keen to hear other thoughts. I’m going to respond to the paper on Production Statements in a separate thread.

Francis

From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew C. Haugen
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Subject: [DCRM-L] Review of RDA proposals: Week 2

Hello all,
Thank you for your insightful comments on the RDA proposals so far! Additional comments are still encouraged through Thursday. Next week's batch has a lot more to digest, including four with potentially significant rare materials implications, so I'm posting them now to give you a head start. But the good news is, that's the last of them!

Your feedback is especially valuable on these four proposals by THURSDAY, AUGUST 20:

1.
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_sites_all_files_6JSC-2DLC-2D32.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=w5vPuCiYORboIDuHQef2-u3ZbbU6GvKjoLu-KJuonh8&e=>
6JSC/LC/32: Revision to instructions for devised titles in RDA 2.3.2.11<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_sites_all_files_6JSC-2DLC-2D32.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=w5vPuCiYORboIDuHQef2-u3ZbbU6GvKjoLu-KJuonh8&e=>
This proposal seeks to provide greater flexibility for devising titles proper for manuscripts, ephemera, choreographic works, art, collections, etc.

2.
6JSC/BL rep/2 Simplification of RDA 2.7-2.10<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_sites_all_files_6JSC-2DBL-2Drep-2D2.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=Z-mBJI5XwEPraxAWOFSjeNPIyyPrhRQAHPJ9DoblvBA&e=>
6JSC/BL rep/2/Appendix <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_sites_all_files_6JSC-2DBL-2Drep-2D2-2DAppendix-2DB.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=9LgXaGhb_6jp_WiYbqkT33UbvjHKRZ-gpjX0zqtNFnQ&e=> Simplification of RDA 2.7-2.10. Follow up/Appendix B<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_sites_all_files_6JSC-2DBL-2Drep-2D2-2DAppendix-2DB.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=9LgXaGhb_6jp_WiYbqkT33UbvjHKRZ-gpjX0zqtNFnQ&e=>
This proposal and appendix are a follow-up to the much-discussed 6JSC/BL rep/1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rda-2Djsc.org_6JSC_BL-2520rep_1&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=imjtM2blfZ9bUckePzaU3TbtFeLg67PEEpQ4wIBzVdc&e=> from last year, which proposed significant changes to instructions for production/publication/distribution/manufacture (PPDM) statements; among other changes, the follow-up now treats production statements separately (see following proposal).

3.
6JSC/BL/26: 2.7 Production statement: Changing method of recording<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_sites_all_files_6JSC-2DBL-2D26.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=WSVKaPiaZfsaT4P6K6X2sH_hQhIIIqIVyP8u80mTn-8&e=>
This related proposal treats production statements separately from publication/distribution/manufacture statements, and regards recording of production elements for unpublished and non-self-describing resources.

4.
6JSC/CCC/18/rev Recording numbering for a series (2.12.9.3)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.rda-2Djsc.org_sites_all_files_6JSC-2DCCC-2D18-2Drev.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=QgdIjKvmQQDLPkxQxoppI39AOUv3xCPb3qrx34gN1HU&e=>
This proposal recommends a change from transcription to recording numbering for series, so as to be more consistent with numbering of serials

Please share your comments on the DCRM-L list or send them directly to me at matthew.haugen at columbia.edu<mailto:matthew.haugen at columbia.edu>
The remaining proposals to be considered by CC:DA over the next few weeks seem to be out of scope for DCRM, so I won't be nagging the list any further, but I'm still happy to post any comments to the CC:DA blog on your behalf. You can access all of the current proposals here: http://rda-jsc.org/newjscdocs<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rda-2Djsc.org_newjscdocs&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=q_SIp8JGvAd7OYu2GHKZ2ZKnuQqjD052ZRnq0YD7V8Y&s=Dp0t028aZbVImbPKcGw3Z6xx7tuQZ2JOTlyR5q_791o&e=>
Thanks again!
Matt

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Matthew C. Haugen
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Columbia University Libraries
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