[DCRM-L] EAD date normal for Lady Day dates

[Deborah J. Leslie]

Aw, c'mon Dorothy, I answered a question you didn't even ask. (-;

It was good seeing you in Oakland; sorry we didn't get a chance to catch up.

Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu | 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu

From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Auyong, Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, 08 July 2015 19:51
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] EAD date normal for Lady Day dates

Many thanks to both Kate James and Deborah Leslie!

--Dorothy Auyong

From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of James, Kate
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 9:30 AM
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] EAD date normal for Lady Day dates

In EAD, you can use the calendar attribute to specify the calendar in the date and unitdate elements.  See the 2nd paragraph in the description here: http://www.loc.gov/ead/tglib/elements/date.html

A non-Gregorian date cannot be rendered in ISO 8601 because ISO 8601 is specific to the Gregorian calendar.  See http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail?csnumber=40874.  Uncertain dates can be rendered in EDTF, which is an extension of ISO 8601.  Here is the website for EDTF: http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/.  EDTF is still in draft status, but a lot of people are using it anyway.

Kate James
Policy and Standards Division
Library of Congress





From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:58 AM
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] EAD date normal for Lady Day dates

Are you talking about MARC encoding for a bib record? Encode the fixed fields for the modern Gregorian equivalent, and use field 046 for non-modern-Gregorian dates as they appear on the resource. Here's our documentation, if you find it useful: http://folgerpedia.folger.edu/MARC_046_Special_Coded_Dates_%28Bibliographic%29


Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu<mailto:djleslie at folger.edu> | 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu

From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Auyong, Dorothy
Sent: Wednesday, 01 July 2015 20:30
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: [DCRM-L] EAD date normal for Lady Day dates

Off the wall question for DCRM, but I've gone blind trying to hack EAD and ISO 8601 trying to find the answer.

How does one render double-dated (i.e. both Gregorian and Julian dates) or Lady Day dates in a normalized date element?  Or for that matter "or" dates. I'm taking examples from the draft of DCRM(MSS)

<date
normal=" " >1603/1604 March 15</date>

<date normal=" ">1866 or 1867</date>  [Hebrew calendar example]

Etc.?

The easiest solution of course is not to supply a normalized date element and move on, but I did wonder if the answer was out there.

Dorothy Auyong
Principal Catalog Librarian/Archivist
Henry E. Huntington Library
Acquistions Cataloging and Metadata Services
dauyong at huntington.org<mailto:dauyong at huntington.org>

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