[DCRM-L] Preferred Source of Information -- No title page -- Same title proper available in more than one source

Lapka, Francis francis.lapka at yale.edu
Tue Jul 21 12:38:41 MDT 2015


Erin,

Correct. The issue is in the context of resources consisting of more than one page, leaf, sheet or card. For Graphics (still images) -- including those on more than one sheet -- our provisional guidelines steer close to DCRM(G).

Francis



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Francis, can you confirm that we're only talking about formats where a title page would normally be the chief source of information?

In DCRM(Graphics), it wouldn't matter if the same title appeared in more than one place on the resource. You'd just pick one and make the always-mandatory source-of-title note.

Thanks,

Erin.

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I think a rare reason might be the special needs of incunabula, many of which have no title pages. I have taken titles from first lines of text, incipits, the colophon/explicit, prologues, tables, etc.

Anna Bryan
Senior Cataloger
Rare Materials Section
U.S. Anglo Division
Library of Congress

I speak only for myself.

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If a difference like this does remain in DCRM it needs to be justified by a *rare* reason, and not just be there because we think it's a good idea. I'm having a hard time seeing a requirement arising from the fact that we're cataloging rare materials that makes us depart from RDA on this particular issue.

Bob

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I’d like community input on the matter of the preferred source of information for resources *lacking a title page.*



All DCRM modules are compatible with the idea expressed in DCRM(B) 0C3: “ … if a single title proper<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__desktop.loc.gov_search-3Fview-3Ddocument-26doc-5Faction-3Dsetdoc-26doc-5Fkeytype-3Dfoliodestination-26doc-5Fkey-3DdcrmbTitleSPACEproperSLASHglossary-26hash-3DTitleSPACEproperSLASHglossary-26fq-3Dallresources-257Ctrue&d=AwMFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=t7GDkvcZa922K6iya7a6MxgVxxw7OjL0m1rPBXkflk4&m=BjeXZmLm1Jw9h2eF77smVbkjBumEpXxyXRcSHJ8uXxo&s=AVxnDydtRPSjomcJ5Fi6TKLUxFOIUpBL5g4DZSLP9_Q&e=> is available in a single source within the publication, use this source as the title page substitute.”



All are also compatible with the idea of an ordered list of preferred sources when (quoting B) “different titles, or differing forms of the same title, appear within the publication.”



When, however, “the *same title proper* is available in more than one source within the resource” there is a noteworthy difference. In Serials, this condition is not treated separately from that in which differing titles appear. That is, Serials prescribes the ordered list of preferred sources. The Serials approach mimics that of RDA (see 2.2.2.2).



For this condition, the other DCRM modules say to choose “the source that supplies the most additional information” – an idea entirely absent from RDA. If the next version of DCRM maintains this guideline, it would represent a major departure from RDA. Is this variation justifiable?



(I don’t yet have an opinion on the matter.)



Francis









Francis Lapka  ·  Catalog Librarian

Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts

Yale Center for British Art

203.432.9672  ·  francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>


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