[DCRM-L] "Slips for Librarians to paste on Catalogue Cards"

Thu Mar 5 13:11:31 MST 2015

Another article worth taking a look at, including its notes, is Barbara
Tillett's, "Catalog It Once for all: a History of Cooperative Cataloging
in the United States Prior to 1967 (Before MARC). Cataloging and
Classification Quarterly 17, nos. 3/4 (1993): 3-38.

There is a longer discussion of the issue of cooperative cataloging, with
a detailed explanation of Benjamin Jowett's scheme, but I do not have the
citation to hand.

Didn't H W Wilson issue card sets with its books or make them available
with its books well into the mid-20th century or later?  Not quite the
same thing as inserting a leaf, but not all that far distant, either.

Larry
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On Thu, March 5, 2015 1:02 pm, Noble, Richard wrote:
> Jane Kaser's article is referenced in *Encyclopedia of Library and
> Information Science* (1970) v.4, "Cataloging-in-Source", by Elspeth Pope,
> written immediately before institution of the current CIP program (whole
> article yielded up via a Google search). Pope discusses early attempts at
> a
> centralized CIS program that proved logistically unwieldy and was
> abandoned
> in 1880, but says nothing about the sort of slips that are found in the
> Henry Holt books.
>
> Without having seen Kaser's article, but in view of its date of
> publication
> and brevity, I assume that she was mostly reporting the unhappy conclusion
> of the 1958-9 LC Cataloging-in-Source experiment.
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Manon ThÃ©roux <manon.theroux at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think this must be the article:
>>
>> Jane Kaser, "The Venerable History of Cataloging-in-Source," Missouri
>> Library Association Quarterly, 20:76-7 (Sept. 1959) .
>>
>> -Manon
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Donald Farren <dfarren at concentric.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The original inquiry was about how to describe the slips, so I didnâ€™t
>> follow up with the historical aspects, but, as Richard mentions, they
>> were
>> a precursor of CIP. The slips appear in books published by Holt during
>> the
>> 1880s-1890s. A very progressive idea at the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Years ago, I identified a hundred or so of the books in which they
>> appear,
>> and I have a shelfful of them. An article was published on the slips in
>> one
>> of the library journals, the name of the author of which I canâ€™t
>> remember
>> except that she was the wife of David Kaser (so the surname is Kaser).
>> The
>> article is descriptive of the phenomenon and makes the connection with
>> CIP
>> but doesnâ€™t account for what gave rise to the practice or its demise.
>> I
>> thought of writing an article about those aspects, so I searched the
>> finding aid to the Holt archive, and the person who did the article on
>> the
>> Holt archive in that huge Gale series searched the collection for me,
>> but
>> neither of us located any paperwork. I assume that there was a
>> connection
>> with ALA, so I tried to identify the ALA committee that would have been
>> responsible by searching contemporaneous ALA publications but likewise
>> without success.
>>
>>
>>
>> The slips are the size to be pasted on those half-height card catalogue
>> cards that were used before the larger size was standardized, some of
>> which
>> still, during the 1960s-1970s, existed in the venerable card catalogue
>> cabinets in use at the Providence Athenaeum, but the cataloguer there
>> reported never having seen any of the slips. I thought they might appear
>> in
>> other card catalogues that still contained half-height cards, so I wrote
>> to
>> a few libraries where I thought those cards might be in use, one of
>> which
>> was the Boston Athenaeum, but I received negative reports.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thatâ€™s all I can report without getting out of my chair to look at my
>> records (if I could find them now).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Donald Farren
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>> <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Noble, Richard
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:06 AM
>> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] CV question
>>
>>
>>
>> It's CIP (quite literally, even though some 82 years *avant la lettre*),
>> so "CIP leaf?"--a somewhat lighthearted suggestion.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Has anyone else seen one?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Could we see an image of this one? I'm curious to see what 1889 CIP
>> looks like.
>>
>>
>> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
>>
>> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
>>
>> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Matthew C. Haugen <
>> matthew.haugen at columbia.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently came across something in a book I haven't seen before:
>> printed
>> descriptions of the book meant to be excised and pasted onto library
>> catalog cards.
>>
>>
>>
>> The book is Our familiar songs and those who made them. New York : Henry
>> Holt and company, 1889.
>>
>>
>>
>> The text printed on the preliminary leaf begins: "Slips for Librarians
>> to
>> paste on Catalogue Cards. N.B.--Take out carefully, leaving about
>> quarter
>> of an inch at the back. To do otherwise would, in some cases, release
>> other
>> leaves." This is followed by the text for for 5 cards, for author,
>> title, a
>> variant title and two subject entries.
>>
>>
>>
>> From the description and signing pattern, I take this to be an integral
>> leaf. I imagine some copies might have only a stub suggesting that this
>> leaf was removed. Or, perhaps this was a separate issue distributed to
>> libraries and this text wasn't included in all copies?  I have a copy of
>> the Holt 1881 edition which has a blank preliminary in this place.
>>
>>
>>
>> It does seem to be an interesting case, but I'm not sure how best to
>> describe it, nor can I find an obvious term in the controlled
>> vocabularies.
>> I'll consider proposing one if needed. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> Matthew C. Haugen
>> Rare Book Cataloger
>> 102 Butler Library
>> Columbia University Libraries
>> E-mail: matthew.haugen at columbia.edu
>> Phone: 212-851-2451
>>
>>
>>
>>
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