[DCRM-L] Keeping searchability on old citation forms (was: New citation for "Mortimer, R. French 16th cent." and Mortimer, R. Italian 16th cent.")

[Matthew C. Haugen]

As some of you might now, a small group of us are working on a JSC proposal
to accommodate references to citations in RDA. There will be a draft
proposal available for community discussion sometime this summer.

In the meantime, that work gave rise to a related idea for a MARC proposal
in addition to the JSC proposal, which I wanted to put forth for
consideration of the DCRM community.

MARC Bibliographic 510, new subfield $2 Source of citation form
New name and title authority source code "scf" for Standard Citation Forms

This seems to me to be a possible method of enabling searchability on
former and variant forms, as well as controlling, updating, etc., outside
of local implementations like the ones Bob describes, especially if/when
SCF is published as linked data. Potentially, $2 naf or other title
authorities could also be used here, for titles not found in SCF. This
seems somewhat analogous to 383 $2 mlati, for Music Thematic Index codes.

Does this seem worthwhile?

Matthew


On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Robert Maxwell <robert_maxwell at byu.edu>
wrote:

>  No, unfortunately the authority records aren’t searched and used in
> keyword searches of the bibliographic file. I completely agree that this is
> what’s needed; I’ve suggested this over and over to our people who are
> designing our “discovery layer” and they seem to think it’s a good idea and
> doable but haven’t done it.
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> Bob
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> Robert L. Maxwell
> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> (801)422-5568
>
> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves
> to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.
>
>
>
> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Erin Blake
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:34 PM
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Keeping searchability on old citation forms (was: New
> citation for "Mortimer, R. French 16th cent." and Mortimer, R. Italian 16th
> cent.")
>
>
>
> Thanks for the quick work in creating the separate citations for Mortimer!
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> Bob, do you have a magic system where adding a cross-reference to the old
> form in your authorities makes it possible to include the old form in a
> keyword search? If so, where can we get one?! Cross-references only work
> when doing left-anchored browses for us, and I’m willing to bet that
> approximately no one searches our 510s that way.
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> The new citations are great for directing people to the right source if
> they already found the record they want, but researchers accustomed
> searching the 510 for  “VD16 AND 1222” or “STC AND 13828” when they have a
> reference number in hand are going to be troubled by
>
> “Verzeichnis der im deutschen Sprachbereich erschienenen Drucke des XVI.
> Jahrhunderts” and “Pollard, A.W. Short-title catalogue of books printed in
> England, Scotland, & Ireland and of English books printed abroad, 1475-1640
> (2nd ed.)”
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>
> Possible solution: use machine-matching to pair any tricky new 510 with a
> non-displaying-but-searchable local 510 containing the old form by locally
> defining a 2nd indicator.  Most of the new 510s aren’t going to be
> problematic for our users, but there are  a few that are so wildly
> different from what’s commonly seen in dealers’ catalogs that it seems
> worth making a list.
>
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>
> Anyone else considering something like this?
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>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Erin.
>
>
>
> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
> <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Marcia Barrett
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 12:38 PM
> *To:* dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] New citation for "Mortimer, R. French 16th cent." and
> Mortimer, R. Italian 16th cent."
>
>
>
> The Standard Citation Forms group has provided separate citations for the
> two parts of the Harvard College Library. Catalog of books and manuscripts:
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> http://rbms.info/scf/?post_type=scf_entries&p=1200
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> http://rbms.info/scf/?post_type=scf_entries&p=2548
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>
>
> --
>
> Marcia Barrett
>
> Head, Technical Services
>
> University Library
> University of California
> Santa Cruz, CA 95064
>
> barrett at ucsc.edu
> 831-459-5166
>



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Matthew C. Haugen
Rare Book Cataloger
102 Butler Library
Columbia University Libraries
E-mail: matthew.haugen at columbia.edu
Phone: 212-851-2451
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