[DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 117, Issue 17

[Dooley,Jackie]

I too agree with Richard for the reason he cites.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:01:46 -0500
From: "Noble, Richard" <richard_noble at brown.edu<mailto:richard_noble at brown.edu>>
To: "DCRM Users' Group" <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] MARC fields 751 and 752
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I would strongly favor the addition of relators to the 752 field. One of
its greatest strengths is the hierarchical format, which makes it possible
to browse lower elements of the hierarchy without prior knowledge of their
existence in the database, ordered according to a specifically geographical
logic, i.e. how we think about places.

The format of 751 is the equivalent of 700s in direct order without see
from references--not optimal, i.e. not how we think about names.

RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Lapka, Francis <francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>>
wrote:

In 2007, MARBI approved creation of MARC field 751:
Added entry in which the entry element is a geographic name that is
related to a particular attribute of the described item, e.g., the place of
publication for a rare book, place of distribution, place of a university
to which a dissertation is submitted, place of an event such as a
conference, etc.

http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd751.html

The scope of this field is similar to that of the 752, which substitutes
?hierarchical form of place name? for ?geographic name.?

Compare the results:

751 __ $a Lyon (France) $e publication place [or $4 pup]

752 __ $a France $d Lyon.

While we may debate the merits of recording the entry element in
hierarchical form (752) or a form as entered in an authority file (751),
the 751 has at least one clear advantage: it allows us to specify the
nature of the relationship between the place and the resource, via
subfields $e or $4. These subfields are not available in the 752.

I fear our 752 tracings are regrettably ambiguous. They fail to indicate
whether the data is about a place of production, publication, distribution,
or manufacture.

Before long, it is very likely that the option to record relationships to
PPDM places will be formalized in RDA. See:

FRBR Library Reference Model:
http://library.ifla.org/1084/1/207-riva-en.pdf

Proposed revisions to RDA 2.7-2.10: http://www.rda-rsc.org/6JSC/BL%20rep/2

Given that RDA will soon emphasize related places, I think now would be a
good time to modify our practice so that we can make explicit the nature of
these relationships (of course agencies are free to do as they please).
Might we consider it best practice to use the 751 instead of the 752? Or
could we request a modification to the 752 field to add subfields in which
to record the relationship designator and/or code? Are any on this list
already using the 751 field?

Francis

Francis Lapka  ?  Catalog Librarian
Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts
Yale Center for British Art
203.432.9672  ?  francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:11:58 +0000
From: "Fell, Todd" <todd.fell at yale.edu<mailto:todd.fell at yale.edu>>
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] MARC fields 751 and 752
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I would agree with Richard; retain the usage of the 752 while advocating for the ability to provide relationship designators.

Todd

Todd Fell
Head, Rare Book Cataloging Unit
Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library
P.O. Box 208330
New Haven, CT 06520-8330
(203) 432-5178

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