[DCRM-L] Ligatus thesaurus

Thu Jun 23 09:24:10 MDT 2016

The MARC Standards Office has informed me that kobt was indeed a typo, and
has already corrected the source code list and the technical notice to read
lobt.

http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/tn160406src.html

http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html

This means we will be able to use the code lobt in MARC records to indicate
terms from the Language of Binding thesaurus in 655_7 $2 lobt as we do with
rbbin and the other controlled vocabularies.

Again, the code does not validate in OCLC right now, and probably won't
until the next OCLC-MARC format update.

Thanks for your patience with all of my emails about this.

Matt

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Matthew C. Haugen <
matthew.haugen at columbia.edu> wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification, Manon. I did not see the email with "lobt."
> So hopefully the MARC office can correct the web page.
>
> In any case, neither lobt nor kobt validate in OCLC right now, and
> probably won't until the next OCLC-MARC format update.
>
> Also, I misspoke about the use of the source codes in my last message. I
> meant to say $2, not $7.
>
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Schneider, Nina <
> nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying this, Matt. I was originally looking at the site on
>> my phone, so didn't see the details.
>>
>> N
>>
>> +----------
>> Nina Schneider
>> Rare Books Librarian
>> William Andrews Clark Memorial Library
>> University of California, Los Angeles
>> 2520 Cimarron Street
>> Los Angeles, CA  90018
>>
>> (323) 731-8529
>> nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu
>> http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/clarklib/
>>
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>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> on behalf
>> of Matthew C. Haugen <matthew.haugen at columbia.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:24:02 AM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Ligatus thesaurus
>>
>> Hi Nina, I noticed those codes too. The new codes relating to the RBMS
>> CVs seen in the MARC Technical Notice on April 7 are separate from the RBMS
>> Genre/Form codes, which have not changed.
>>
>> These new source codes are for standard identifiers, not for terms, and
>> are specified for use in 024 $7, not in 655 $7.
>>
>> Encoding this in an authority record for a term would allow for
>> establishing equivalencies between other vocabularies, and other
>> applications which would rely on identifiers rather than terms. I did not
>> see any announcements or discussion about these codes, either.
>>
>> I suspect their addition has something to do with the work to publication
>> of the CVs as linked data? https://github.com/rbmsvocabs
>>
>> Perhaps someone else can elucidate.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Schneider, Nina <
>> nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu<mailto:nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu>> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I just had a look at this list and noticed the RBMS thesaurus/CV codes
>> have also changed. Did I miss an announcement?
>>
>> Nina
>>
>>
>> +---------------
>> Nina M. Schneider
>> Chair, RBMS Bibliographic Standards Committee
>>
>> Rare Books Librarian
>> William Andrews Clark Memorial Library
>> 2520 Cimarron Street
>> Los Angeles, CA  90018
>> (323) 731-8529<tel:%28323%29%20731-8529>
>>
>> nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu<mailto:nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu>
>> http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/clarklib/
>>
>>
>> From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>
>> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>]
>> On Behalf Of Matthew C. Haugen
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 8:02 AM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group
>>
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] FW: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus
>> thesaurus [Was "Untrimmed Edges"]
>>
>> Richard, Thank you for the suggestion. I queried them just now, and will
>> let the list know what I hear.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Noble, Richard <richard_noble at brown.edu
>> <mailto:richard_noble at brown.edu>> wrote:
>> Matt-
>>
>> Did you query the MARC Standards Office about "kobt"? It looks very much
>> like a typo from whatever source that found its way into the two documents.
>> If it is, then it should be corrected asap, before it finds its way into
>> too many records.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
>> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187<tel:
>> 401-863-1187>
>> <Richard_Noble at Br<mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu<http://own.edu>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Matthew C. Haugen <
>> matthew.haugen at columbia.edu<mailto:matthew.haugen at columbia.edu>> wrote:
>> All, Thanks for the feedback. I submitted a request for a new source code
>> for the Language of Bindings Thesaurus to the MARC standards office on
>> February 5. A new code was announced in the MARC Technical Notice on April
>> 7, but it just came to my attention today:
>> Genre/Form Code and Term Source Codes
>>
>> The following source code has been added to the Genre/Form Code and Term
>> Source Codes<http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html>
>> list for usage in appropriate fields and elements.
>> Additions
>>
>>   *   kobt - Language of Bindings Thesaurus (London: University of Arts)
>> Sources:
>> http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/tn160406src.html
>>
>> http://www.loc.gov/standards/sourcelist/genre-form.html
>>
>> This enables the use of the thesaurus in 655_7 $2 kobt
>> I would have expected lobt, but both LOC documents do show kobt.
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Carpenter, Jane <
>> jfcarpenter at library.ucla.edu<mailto:jfcarpenter at library.ucla.edu>> wrote:
>> Nina, LOB = Language of Bindings (Ligatus)
>> I believe it’s Jackie Shieh
>> You’re right—Feb 15th is President’s Day!  (I didn’t realize….)  We’ll
>> reschedule the CV meeting
>> Thanks for pointing that out
>> Jane
>> From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>
>> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>]
>> On Behalf Of Schneider, Nina
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:23 PM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] FW: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus
>> thesaurus [Was "Untrimmed Edges"]
>>
>> Sorry, Matt, for being dense. What’s LOB?
>>
>> Also, I went to an ALA reporting meeting at UCLA yesterday and one person
>> reported on a meeting they attended (PCC at Large, I believe) in which
>> expansion of fields beyond $0 (such as $0 for authorities, $w for works and
>> $4 for bibliographic relationships) help with linking. I believe it’s a
>> pilot of the URI Task Group (I think Jackie Shay – George Washington
>> University -- gave the presentation at Midwinter).
>>
>> Nina
>>
>> From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>
>> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew C. Haugen
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:05 AM
>> To: Deborah J. Leslie
>> Cc: DCRM Users' Group
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] FW: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus
>> thesaurus [Was "Untrimmed Edges"]
>>
>> I am considering submitting a request for a new MARC genre/form code and
>> term source code for the LOB database to enable use of the terms in 655 as
>> with rbbin. Would others find this desirable? Has a request already been
>> made, perhaps?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu
>> <mailto:DJLeslie at folger.edu>> wrote:
>> For those who don't studiously read ExLibris-L. This thesaurus has been a
>> long time in preparation:
>> http://www.arts.ac.uk/research/ual-research-centres/ligatus/
>>
>> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu
>> <mailto:djleslie at folger.edu> | 202.675-0369<tel:202.675-0369> | 201 East
>> Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu<http://folger.edu
>> >
>>
>> From: Nicholas Pickwoad [mailto:npickwoad at paston.co.uk<mailto:
>> npickwoad at paston.co.uk>]
>> Sent: Friday, 08 May 2015 10:19
>> To: exlibris-l at list.indiana.edu<mailto:exlibris-l at list.indiana.edu>
>> Subject: [Marketing Mail] Re: ["EXLIBRIS-L"] Ligatus thesaurus [Was
>> "Untrimmed Edges"]
>>
>> Dear Leslie,
>>
>> I have now at last got news. The thesaurus will be open to all in the
>> week leading up to a conference we are putting on in London with CERL on 23
>> June (the poster is about to go out). The accompanying volume, Coming to
>> Terms: guidelines for the description of historical bindings (120,000 words
>> and about 500 illustrations) is now with the designer and will be available
>> later in the summer.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Professor Nicholas Pickwoad
>> Ligatus Research Centre
>> CCW Graduate School, University of the Arts London
>> 16 John Islip Street
>> London SW1P 4JU
>>
>> e-mail: npickwoad at paston.co.uk<mailto:npickwoad at paston.co.uk>
>>
>>
>> On 8 May 2015, at 15:12, "Deborah J. Leslie" <DJLeslie at FOLGER.edu<mailto:
>> DJLeslie at FOLGER.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Nicholas,
>>
>> Any word on when the Ligatus thesaurus will be available for general use?
>>
>> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu
>> <mailto:djleslie at folger.edu> | 202.675-0369<tel:202.675-0369> | 201 East
>> Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu<http://folger.edu
>> >
>>
>>
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