[DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?

Tue Mar 22 14:47:16 MDT 2016

Thanks!
Borrowing Richard's phrasing, how does this look?

300   x, 440 pages : ǂb illustrations ; ǂc 26 cm
500   This record represents 2 issues of this edition, distinguished by 
a variation in the pagination of the preface. In the variant the preface 
is set in a smaller typeface, printed on 6 (vi) pages.

Barbara

On 3/22/2016 4:29 PM, Noble, Richard wrote:
> Well, issues are not /always/ distinguished by title page 
> variants--different dedications are known to turn up, for instance, 
> which certainly mattered to somebody--but you have to dig pretty 
> deeply into Bowers to figure out how and when. Deborah's right that 
> the default with no title variants is to treat the variants as states 
> within the issue.
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu 
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>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Deborah J. Leslie 
> <DJLeslie at folger.edu <mailto:DJLeslie at folger.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Congratulations, Barbara—isn't it satisfying to find new things
>     like that?
>
>     I agree with Richard. What you've described are variant states of
>     an issue and should not be on different records. If, say, there
>     was a statement on the title page about changes or revisions, then
>     you'd probably be dealing with different issues, which would
>     require a new record according to DCRM(B).
>
>     From the DCRM(B) glossary:
>
>     **Issue.*A group of published copies which constitutes a
>     consciously planned publishing unit, distinguishable from other
>     groups of published copies by one or more differences designed
>     expressly to identify the group as a discrete unit.
>
>     Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger, Folger
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>     [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>     <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Noble, Richard
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 March 2016 15:34
>     *To:* DCRM Users' Group
>     *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
>
>     If the difference is clearly only physical--the same text crammed
>     onto fewer pages--then this could be regarded as a case of variant
>     states within a single issue (manifestation). A 500 note giving
>     the details would be a useful addition to the OCLC master record
>     (including reference to the copy that is your evidence for the
>     difference).
>
>     If there is any sort of significant difference in the text, then
>     it might be described as a different issue, as such justifying its
>     own dcrmb master record, though again some sort of note would be
>     required. No doubt the holdings attached to the NLM master record
>     represent both variants, which cannot be sorted out in any
>     practicable way. I've written a few notes beginning, say, "This
>     record represents 2 issues of this edition, distinguished by ...".
>     There's just no other way to explain it.
>
>
>     RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
>
>     BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  :: 401-863-1187
>     <tel:401-863-1187>
>
>     <Richard_Noble at Br <mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu
>     <http://own.edu>>
>
>     On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Shiner, Elaine P.
>     <eshiner at fas.harvard.edu <mailto:eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>     According to OCLC guidelines on When to Input a New Record, a “
>     variation in preliminary paging, post paging or separate paging”
>     (not sure what they mean by ‘separate paging’) does not justify
>     making a new record.  If you made a new record, and the
>     preliminary pagination was the only difference, your record might
>     merge with that of  the x, 440 p. issue.
>
>     You can make a new record, however, if you use the rare book rules
>     (dcrmb)
>
>     Elaine
>
>     Elaine Shiner,
>
>     Rare Book Cataloger
>
>     Houghton Library, Harvard University
>
>     eshiner at fas.harvard.edu <mailto:eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>
>
>     617-496-9190 <tel:617-496-9190>
>
>     *From:*dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
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>     [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>     <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Barbara Tysinger
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:23 PM
>     *To:* DCRM Revision Group List
>     *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
>
>     Hello All,
>
>     I think I may have an unrecognized variant of /De la prothèse
>     immédiate, appliquée a la résection des maxillaires/ (1889) by
>     Claude Martin.
>
>     The records in OCLC all have the pagination as x, 440 pages, but
>     the copy I have is vi, 440 pages, the Roman numerals in both cases
>     representing the preface.
>
>     Compared to the digitized copy at The Internet Archive (
>     http://archive.org/stream/delaprothseimm00mart#page/n9/mode/2up
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__archive.org_stream_delaprothseimm00mart-23page_n9_mode_2up&d=CwMDaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=z7NicJkNYFkVLEcQmeSRBA7uLawvKWXubuodzMMWnVw&m=JwbtaCwq5TC_5X0YXjxD847PzYksFGnanWHZmF84wWI&s=2l7AwrFRybr2SBQ7IKfO9qzdYqUYfnkxMRNkNmEfINU&e=>
>     ), the content of the preface in my copy is the same, but is set
>     in a smaller font, taking less space. The title page, colophon,
>     and main text block appear to be the same.
>
>     Is this a variation worthy of a new record? Or should I use the
>     existing NLM record in OCLC, and just make a change in the local
>     catalog (with appropriate notation, of course).
>
>     Thanks!
>     Barbara
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