[DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?

Wed Mar 23 10:02:29 MDT 2016

Thanks, Richard!

Final version of note?

"This record represents 2 issues of this edition, distinguished by a 
variation in the pagination of the preface. In the variant the preface 
is set in a smaller typeface, printed on 6 (vi) pages. Not evaluated for 
textual variation. Variant in the Sheldon Peck Collection on the History 
of Orthodontics and Dental Medicine, at the Health Sciences Library, 
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. ǂ5 NcU-H"

Barbara

On 3/23/2016 9:50 AM, Noble, Richard wrote:
> The only thing you might add--only if you are allowed/allow yourself 
> the time to do it--is to remark whether there is any textual 
> variation. If I decided not to collate the texts, I might add, in 
> cataloger passive, "(not evaluated for textual variation)" or 
> something like that, but would pretty certainly cite my institution as 
> having the variant and add $5, which serves as a sort of institutional 
> cataloger signature.
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu 
> <http://own.edu>>
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Shiner, Elaine P. 
> <eshiner at fas.harvard.edu <mailto:eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Yes, I agree with Deborah and Richard. I was thinking more about
>     what was allowed in OCLC.
>
>     Just because you can doesn’t mean you should J
>
>     Elaine Shiner,
>
>     Rare Book Cataloger
>
>     Houghton Library, Harvard University
>
>     eshiner at fas.harvard.edu <mailto:eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>
>
>     617-496-9190 <tel:617-496-9190>
>
>     *From:*dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>     <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>
>     [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>     <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Deborah J. Leslie
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:02 PM
>
>
>     *To:* DCRM Users' Group
>     *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
>
>     Congratulations, Barbara—isn't it satisfying to find new things
>     like that?
>
>     I agree with Richard. What you've described are variant states of
>     an issue and should not be on different records. If, say, there
>     was a statement on the title page about changes or revisions, then
>     you'd probably be dealing with different issues, which would
>     require a new record according to DCRM(B).
>
>     From the DCRM(B) glossary:
>
>     **Issue.*A group of published copies which constitutes a
>     consciously planned publishing unit, distinguishable from other
>     groups of published copies by one or more differences designed
>     expressly to identify the group as a discrete unit.
>
>     Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger, Folger
>     Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu
>     <mailto:djleslie at folger.edu> | 202.675-0369 <tel:202.675-0369> |
>     201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu
>     <http://folger.edu> | orcid.org/0000-0001-5848-5467
>     <http://orcid.org/0000-0001-5848-5467>
>
>     *From:*dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>     <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>
>     [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Noble, Richard
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 March 2016 15:34
>     *To:* DCRM Users' Group
>     *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
>
>     If the difference is clearly only physical--the same text crammed
>     onto fewer pages--then this could be regarded as a case of variant
>     states within a single issue (manifestation). A 500 note giving
>     the details would be a useful addition to the OCLC master record
>     (including reference to the copy that is your evidence for the
>     difference).
>
>     If there is any sort of significant difference in the text, then
>     it might be described as a different issue, as such justifying its
>     own dcrmb master record, though again some sort of note would be
>     required. No doubt the holdings attached to the NLM master record
>     represent both variants, which cannot be sorted out in any
>     practicable way. I've written a few notes beginning, say, "This
>     record represents 2 issues of this edition, distinguished by ...".
>     There's just no other way to explain it.
>
>
>     RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
>
>     BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  :: 401-863-1187
>     <tel:401-863-1187>
>
>     <Richard_Noble at Br <mailto:RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__own.edu&d=CwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=z7NicJkNYFkVLEcQmeSRBA7uLawvKWXubuodzMMWnVw&m=Mbp-sUHVkuiRk-n_qzOw9absFOogmfsYWybMLH7eAsk&s=CjoS4dBXhGPv8oWrXJ-KGp0cIt8gIeqpldkh47slDuA&e=>>
>
>     On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Shiner, Elaine P.
>     <eshiner at fas.harvard.edu <mailto:eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>     According to OCLC guidelines on When to Input a New Record, a “
>     variation in preliminary paging, post paging or separate paging”
>     (not sure what they mean by ‘separate paging’) does not justify
>     making a new record.  If you made a new record, and the
>     preliminary pagination was the only difference, your record might
>     merge with that of  the x, 440 p. issue.
>
>     You can make a new record, however, if you use the rare book rules
>     (dcrmb)
>
>     Elaine
>
>     Elaine Shiner,
>
>     Rare Book Cataloger
>
>     Houghton Library, Harvard University
>
>     eshiner at fas.harvard.edu <mailto:eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>
>
>     617-496-9190 <tel:617-496-9190>
>
>     *From:*dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>     <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>
>     [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>     <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Barbara Tysinger
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:23 PM
>     *To:* DCRM Revision Group List
>     *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
>
>     Hello All,
>
>     I think I may have an unrecognized variant of /De la prothèse
>     immédiate, appliquée a la résection des maxillaires/ (1889) by
>     Claude Martin.
>
>     The records in OCLC all have the pagination as x, 440 pages, but
>     the copy I have is vi, 440 pages, the Roman numerals in both cases
>     representing the preface.
>
>     Compared to the digitized copy at The Internet Archive (
>     http://archive.org/stream/delaprothseimm00mart#page/n9/mode/2up
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__archive.org_stream_delaprothseimm00mart-23page_n9_mode_2up&d=CwMDaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=z7NicJkNYFkVLEcQmeSRBA7uLawvKWXubuodzMMWnVw&m=JwbtaCwq5TC_5X0YXjxD847PzYksFGnanWHZmF84wWI&s=2l7AwrFRybr2SBQ7IKfO9qzdYqUYfnkxMRNkNmEfINU&e=>
>     ), the content of the preface in my copy is the same, but is set
>     in a smaller font, taking less space. The title page, colophon,
>     and main text block appear to be the same.
>
>     Is this a variation worthy of a new record? Or should I use the
>     existing NLM record in OCLC, and just make a change in the local
>     catalog (with appropriate notation, of course).
>
>     Thanks!
>     Barbara
>     ...................All opinions are entirely my
>     own....................
>
>     Barbara R. Tysinger Phone: (919)966-0949 <tel:%28919%29966-0949>
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>
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