[DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?

Wed Mar 23 10:50:55 MDT 2016

Looks good to me .. of course. But it also *feels* good to write notes like
this that I will understand long after I've done another few hundred books
and can't quite remember all the details of this one--which is a pretty
good test whether it will make sense to anyone else. It *could* be set up
so as to treat each state as a variant of the other ("Who you callin' a
variant, you varmint!"), but your version does the trick just fine.

RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
<Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Barbara Tysinger <btysingr at email.unc.edu>
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> Thanks, Richard!
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> Final version of note?
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> "This record represents 2 issues of this edition, distinguished by a
> variation in the pagination of the preface. In the variant the preface is
> set in a smaller typeface, printed on 6 (vi) pages. Not evaluated for
> textual variation. Variant in the Sheldon Peck Collection on the History of
> Orthodontics and Dental Medicine, at the Health Sciences Library,
> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. ǂ5 NcU-H"
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> Barbara
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> On 3/23/2016 9:50 AM, Noble, Richard wrote:
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> The only thing you might add--only if you are allowed/allow yourself the
> time to do it--is to remark whether there is any textual variation. If I
> decided not to collate the texts, I might add, in cataloger passive, "(not
> evaluated for textual variation)" or something like that, but would pretty
> certainly cite my institution as having the variant and add $5, which
> serves as a sort of institutional cataloger signature.
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> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>
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> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Shiner, Elaine P. <
> <eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>eshiner at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
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>> Yes, I agree with Deborah and Richard. I was thinking more about what was
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>> Just because you can doesn’t mean you should J
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>> Elaine Shiner,
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>> Houghton Library, Harvard University
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>> <eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>eshiner at fas.harvard.edu
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>> 617-496-9190
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>> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
>> Behalf Of *Deborah J. Leslie
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 4:02 PM
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>> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
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>> Congratulations, Barbara—isn't it satisfying to find new things like that?
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>> I agree with Richard. What you've described are variant states of an
>> issue and should not be on different records. If, say, there was a
>> statement on the title page about changes or revisions, then you'd probably
>> be dealing with different issues, which would require a new record
>> according to DCRM(B).
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>> From the DCRM(B) glossary:
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>> **Issue.* A group of published copies which constitutes a consciously
>> planned publishing unit, distinguishable from other groups of published
>> copies by one or more differences designed expressly to identify the group
>> as a discrete unit.
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>> Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. | Senior Cataloger, Folger Shakespeare
>> Library | djleslie at folger.edu | 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE,
>> Washington, DC 20003 | www. folger.edu | orcid.org/0000-0001-5848-5467
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>> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
>> <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Noble, Richard
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 March 2016 15:34
>> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
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>> If the difference is clearly only physical--the same text crammed onto
>> fewer pages--then this could be regarded as a case of variant states within
>> a single issue (manifestation). A 500 note giving the details would be a
>> useful addition to the OCLC master record (including reference to the copy
>> that is your evidence for the difference).
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>> If there is any sort of significant difference in the text, then it might
>> be described as a different issue, as such justifying its own dcrmb master
>> record, though again some sort of note would be required. No doubt the
>> holdings attached to the NLM master record represent both variants, which
>> cannot be sorted out in any practicable way. I've written a few notes
>> beginning, say, "This record represents 2 issues of this edition,
>> distinguished by ...". There's just no other way to explain it.
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>> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
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>> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
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>> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__own.edu&d=CwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=z7NicJkNYFkVLEcQmeSRBA7uLawvKWXubuodzMMWnVw&m=Mbp-sUHVkuiRk-n_qzOw9absFOogmfsYWybMLH7eAsk&s=CjoS4dBXhGPv8oWrXJ-KGp0cIt8gIeqpldkh47slDuA&e=>
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>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Shiner, Elaine P. <
>> <eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>eshiner at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
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>> According to OCLC guidelines on When to Input a New Record, a “ variation
>> in preliminary paging, post paging or separate paging” (not sure what they
>> mean by ‘separate paging’) does not justify making a new record.  If you
>> made a new record, and the preliminary pagination was the only difference,
>> your record might merge with that of  the x, 440 p. issue.
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>> You can make a new record, however, if you use the rare book rules (dcrmb)
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>> Elaine
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>> Elaine Shiner,
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>> Rare Book Cataloger
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>> Houghton Library, Harvard University
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>> <eshiner at fas.harvard.edu>eshiner at fas.harvard.edu
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>> 617-496-9190
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>> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
>> Behalf Of *Barbara Tysinger
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:23 PM
>> *To:* DCRM Revision Group List
>> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Unrecognized variant?
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>> Hello All,
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>> I think I may have an unrecognized variant of *De la prothèse
>> immédiate, appliquée a la résection des maxillaires* (1889) by Claude
>> Martin.
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>> The records in OCLC all have the pagination as x, 440 pages, but the copy
>> I have is vi, 440 pages, the Roman numerals in both cases representing the
>> preface.
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>> Compared to the digitized copy at The Internet Archive (
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__archive.org_stream_delaprothseimm00mart-23page_n9_mode_2up&d=CwMDaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=z7NicJkNYFkVLEcQmeSRBA7uLawvKWXubuodzMMWnVw&m=JwbtaCwq5TC_5X0YXjxD847PzYksFGnanWHZmF84wWI&s=2l7AwrFRybr2SBQ7IKfO9qzdYqUYfnkxMRNkNmEfINU&e=>
>> http://archive.org/stream/delaprothseimm00mart#page/n9/mode/2up ), the
>> content of the preface in my copy is the same, but is set in a smaller
>> font, taking less space. The title page, colophon, and main text block
>> appear to be the same.
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>> Is this a variation worthy of a new record? Or should I use the existing
>> NLM record in OCLC, and just make a change in the local catalog (with
>> appropriate notation, of course).
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>> Thanks!
>> Barbara
>> ...................All opinions are entirely my own....................
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>> Barbara R. Tysinger                                Phone: (919)966-0949
>> Health Sciences Library                            Fax:   (919)966-1388
>> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>> 335 S. Columbia Street, CB# 7585
>> Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7585
>> e-mail: Barbara_Tysinger at unc.edu
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>> ......."Non pilus tam tenuis ut secari non possit."-- St. Minutia......
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