[DCRM-L] FW: early printed books : yikes

Fri Apr 6 15:20:56 MDT 2018

This is not in the same category as Latin abbreviations gone awry, but a colleague just pointed out a record for a 17th century work in our collection with an "intriguing" 520 note that must be the result of a batch process. The work is OCLC 6123143:

245:: Des. Erasmi Roterodami Consultatio de bello Turcis inferendo.
300:: Lugduni Batavorum, J. Maire, 1643.
520: "Engaging images illustrate true rat attack stories and accompany survival tips. The combination of high-interest subject matter and light text is intended for students in grades 3 through 7"--Provided by publisher.

Any ideas about how things like this happen? 

Mary

Mary Person
Rare Books Cataloger/Reference Librarian
Historical & Special Collections
Harvard Law School Library

person at law.harvard.edu

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Has anyone seen any action on this column/color problem in Connection?  I just ran a search to follow up and don't see any systematic fix.  Any thoughts on how we might be able to reverse this?  I cannot think of any instances where column is in fact equal to color :) Thoughts?
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 14:45:18 -0500
From: Erin Blake <erin.blake.folger at gmail.com>
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Thanks for the heads-up, and for the reassurance that OCLC Quality Control fixed it quickly after it was discovered.

They were also quick to fix the rare book records that were changed to microfilm records back in 2013 (see https://listserver.lib.byu.edu/pipermail/dcrm-l/2013-November/003322.html
for a trip down memory lane).

Erin.

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On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>
wrote:

> Let me add my thanks for bringing this up. In my fantasy world, 
> significant algorithms OCLC uses to "update" descriptive cataloging 
> data would be shared in advance with important stakeholders, to help 
> prevent mistakes like this one. At least they can be fixed after the fact.
>
>
>
> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu |
>
>
>
> *From:* DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On Behalf Of 
> *Matthew C. Haugen
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 February, 2018 10:21
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] FW: early printed books : yikes
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this! It reminds me of a similar phenomenon I 
> noticed a couple years ago and reported to OCLC Quality Control.
>
>
>
> It appears OCLC went about converting Latin abbrevations [s.l.], 
> [s.n.], and [n.d.] to the RDA phrases such as "place of publication 
> not identified," but in some cases, other initialisms in place or 
> publisher names containing S. L., S. N., or N. D also got swept up in the change:
>
>
> #71309469
> Lemberg : ?b Druck des S. L. Flecker, ?c 1862.
>
> Lemberg : ?b Druck des Place of publication not identified Flecker, ?c 
> 1862.
>
> #874816261
> New York ; ?a Oxford : ?b Oxford University Press for the U.N.D.P, ?c 
> 1992.
>
> New York ; ?a Oxford : ?b Oxford University Press for the U.date of 
> publication not identifiedP, ?c 1992.
>
> #874495167
> Karnal : ?b N.D.R.I., ?c 1972.
> Karnal : ?b Date of publication not identifiedR.I., ?c 1972.
>
>
>
> #2252304
>
> Bismarck, N.D. : ?b Dept. of Agriculture.
>
> Bismarck, date of publication not identified : ?b Dept. of Agriculture.
>
>
>
> It appears OCLC QC has taken action to fix these and other instances 
> not long after I reported them, and I don't know how widespread the 
> problem was to begin with. But keep an eye out in case any have 
> slipped through OCLC's algorithms or into your local institutions' catalogs.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:32 PM, Andrews, Susan <susan.andrews at ubc.ca>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Deborah J. Leslie [mailto:DJLeslie at FOLGER.edu]
> *Sent:* February-05-18 7:14 AM
> Dear
>
>
>
> *Subject:* FW: early printed books : yikes
>
>
>
> Dear Rare Book people,
>
> First of all my apologies for the delay in passing this on to you. I 
> was away on vacation, then got inundated with urgent cataloguing 
> issues to deal with when I got back.
>
>
>
> I started to think this e-mail thread was too stale to pass on, but 
> you can always delete something you already know all about!
>
> Many if you will be on the OCLC-CAT listserv, so this will be old news.
>
> For others, you might want to read the following, and to check samples 
> of your records in OCLC to see if they got affected.
>
>
>
> Best wishes, Sue.
>
>
>
>
>
> *********************************************
>
> *Sue Andrews*
>
> *Principal Cataloguer*
>
> *University of British Columbia Library*
>
> *2198 Health Sciences Mall, Vancouver BC V6T 1Z3
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2198+Health+Sciences+Mall,+Vancouver+BC+V6
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>
> *Tel. 604-822-4995 <(604)%20822-4995>  Email: susan.andrews at ubc.ca
> <susan.andrews at ubc.ca>*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* OCLC-Cataloging [mailto:OCLC-CAT at OCLCLISTS.ORG 
> <OCLC-CAT at OCLCLISTS.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *Bremer,Robert
> *Sent:* January-30-18 1:58 PM
> *To:* OCLC-CAT at OCLCLISTS.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [OCLC-CAT] early printed books : yikes
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Thank you for letting us know about this issue.  We will work on 
> getting the needed adjustments made to all the affected bibliographic records.
>
>
>
> Robert Bremer
>
> Senior Consulting Database Specialist
>
> OCLC Metadata Quality
>
>
>
> *From:* OCLC-Cataloging [mailto:OCLC-CAT at OCLCLISTS.ORG 
> <OCLC-CAT at OCLCLISTS.ORG>] *On Behalf Of *Andrews, Susan
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:30 PM
> *To:* OCLC-CAT <OCLC-CAT at oclclists.org>
> *Subject:* [OCLC-CAT] early printed books : yikes
>
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> First of all:  sorry if this has been mentioned on this List already!!
>
> I just wanted to alert you (and hopefully some programmer for OCLC!) 
> to a problem I discovered yesterday when cataloguing an early printed book.
>
> I always get excited when I have a book with numbered columns (instead 
> of pages or leaves) because I get to apply that lovely collation rule 
> that talks about the extent of  text in terms of columns.
>
> At first when I searched OCLC to find matching copy I was confused by
> 300 fields that looked like there were illustrated versions of my book!
>
> Then I realized that some program had *unhelpfully* expanded ?col.? 
> (for
> column) to ?color?.  Now  to be fair, this might have been the fault 
> of a contributing library, but I did a quick search and found that it 
> is now quite rampant in the database!  It is hard for me to imagine 
> that so many libraries modified their local rare book records so dramatically.
>
> Here are some suspicious records to look at:
>
> 82679282  (Berkeley please check your copy)
>
> 367569195 (Brigham Young please check your copy)
>
> 702171855 (Yale please check your copy)
>
> The holding/contributing libraries are very wide-ranging including 
> both national libraries, and other major research libraries.
>
>
>
> I hope someone at OCLC has some way to reverse this damage!   Specifically
> in 300 ?a?, of course.
>
>
>
> Sue.
>
>
>
> *********************************************
>
> *Sue Andrews*
>
> *Principal Cataloguer*
>
> *University of British Columbia Library*
>
> *2198 Health Sciences Mall, Vancouver BC V6T 1Z3
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2198+Health+Sciences+Mall,+Vancouver+BC+V6
> T+1Z3&entry=gmail&source=g>*
>
> *Tel. 604-822-4995 <(604)%20822-4995>  Email: susan.andrews at ubc.ca
> <susan.andrews at ubc.ca>*
>
>
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> Matthew C. Haugen
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