[DCRM-L] Fwd: [PCCLIST] New policy regarding limited use of ISBD punctuation in bibliographic records

Fri Dec 14 11:01:44 MST 2018

I'd love for all ISBD punctuation to be machine-supplied, and I don't see
any problem with *new *PCC DCRM records following the three options.

The only conern I've got with the proposal is with step 4: we'd want to
make sure adquate testing is done with DCRM records as part of  "Work with
bibliographic utilities and other interested parties to develop tools and
specifications to automate the process of removal or reinsertion of
punctuation." There might well be "terminal periods integral to the data
(e.g., recorded as part of abbreviations, initials, etc.) " that rarely
come up outside Special Collections. Inadequate testing would let PCC say
"the percentage of PCC records affected is statistically insignificant"
rather than "the percentage of PCC DCRM records affected is unacceptably
large."

Erin.

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On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 12:53 PM Lapka, Francis <francis.lapka at yale.edu>
wrote:

> I think the new policy is sensible. Two questions, to start:
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>    1. The statement below says that PCC will “work with bibliographic
>    utilities and other interested parties to develop tools and specifications
>    to automate the process of removal or reinsertion of punctuation.” Does
>    RBMS/BSC have anything to add to those discussions? Will the general
>    automated processes (in OCLC, for example) work well enough with DCRM
>    descriptions, including those that employ “double” punctuation? Has anyone
>    in our community examined OCLC’s test record set, provided here:
>    http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/documents/test-records-punctuation.html ?
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>    1. Editors of the forthcoming RBMS Policy Statements for RDA will
>    probably have to consider these options for the PS guidance on punctuation.
>    For **DCRM** descriptions, should we (or can we) allow the same three
>    options presented by PCC, when the policy is implemented in the spring?
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> *From:* DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Deborah
> J. Leslie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:21 PM
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
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> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Fwd: [PCCLIST] New policy regarding limited use
> of ISBD punctuation in bibliographic records
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> I think we'd still want ISBD punctuation for display, but that's something
> machines are really good at.
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> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu |
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> *From:* DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
> <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Moody, Honor M.
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 December, 2018 16:11
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Fwd: [PCCLIST] New policy regarding limited use
> of ISBD punctuation in bibliographic records
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> Personally, I’m lamenting the hours of my life wasted in adding ISBD
> punctuation to pre-AACR2 records and correcting it when reviewing the
> records of others.
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> *From:* DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Noble, Richard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:49 PM
> *To:* DCRM Revision Group List <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Fwd: [PCCLIST] New policy regarding limited use of
> ISBD punctuation in bibliographic records
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> My first reaction is to be glad that dcrmb records with original
> punctuation retained might be a bit less cluttered. Others' thoughts?
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> From: *Xiaoli Li* <xlli at ucdavis.edu>
> Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 3:17 PM
> Subject: [PCCLIST] New policy regarding limited use of ISBD punctuation in
> bibliographic records
> To: <PCCLIST at listserv.loc.gov>
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> PCC colleagues,
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> At its recent meeting
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.loc.gov_aba_pcc_documents_PoCo-2D2018_PoCo-2DAgenda-2D2018.pdf%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DWO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ%26r%3DgfxDZP5m9KyeWhmono1ADELcLUOEQEwGHybTpd5N2Wk%26m%3DFXC_fIjOY6iqyFFAwuWAU0jWQfwciIVJUSBeiP5SojY%26s%3DPN8uoCAEqrLQrw1EC47rDM-_t_olzeAS5Tprvjdn2VI%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cfrancis.lapka%40yale.edu%7C6b2def7340604eb9c7f308d66077b543%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C636802464624497618&sdata=ZMsJ%2BlE416a4bquYXWg2DLgnHGCiT0w2FaxjC%2Fo6PbU%3D&reserved=0>,
> the PCC Policy Committee reaffirmed its decision to allow bibliographic
> records with limited ISBD punctuation to be treated as full-level PCC copy.
> This decision comes after reviewing feedback from test participants who
> evaluated three test sets of records provided by Library of Congress, the
> National Library of Medicine, and OCLC. For more information about the
> test, please read the message below or click here
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> Beginning in spring 2019, PCC libraries will have three options to handle
> ISBD punctuation when authenticating new records:
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>    1. Continue current practice
>    2. Omit terminal period in any field*; code Leader/18 (Descriptive
>    cataloging form) “i”
>    3. Omit ISBD punctuation between subfields of descriptive fields and
>    omit terminal period in any field*; code Leader/18 (Descriptive cataloging
>    form) “c”
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> * Exception: Terminal periods integral to the data (e.g., recorded as part
> of abbreviations, initials, etc.) should not be omitted.
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> Options 2 and 3 are optional, not mandatory. However, creating records
> with limited punctuation is expected to save time for catalogers, simplify
> training of new catalogers, make it easier to map data to and from other
> formats, and allow for an easier transition to linked data or vice versa
> (e.g., mapping BIBFRAME to MARC).
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> To facilitate the implementation, PCC will:
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>    1. Develop and maintain style guidelines for records with limited
>    punctuation;
>    2. Provide adequate training resources for catalogers and revise PCC
>    documentation to update policies and include examples with limited
>    punctuation;
>    3. Request that LC Network Development and MARC Standards Office and
>    bibliographic utilities revise MARC 21 documentation to include examples
>    with limited punctuation;
>    4. Work with bibliographic utilities and other interested parties to
>    develop tools and specifications to automate the process of removal or
>    reinsertion of punctuation;
>    5. Encourage vendors, bibliographic utilities, etc., to explore
>    functionality to index and display records with limited punctuation as
>    defined by the PCC;
>    6. Encourage vendors, bibliographic utilities, etc., to explore
>    functionality to allow their users to easily add or remove punctuation as
>    needed.
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> The Policy Committee is in the process of developing a detailed
> implementation plan which will include the aforementioned style guidelines.
> I will share more information with you as it becomes available. In the
> meantime, if you have questions, suggestions, or comments, please feel free
> to contact me.
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> Sincerely,
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> Xiaoli Li
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> PCC Chair
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> Head of Content Support Services
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> UC Davis Library
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