[DCRM-L] Indexing 510 locally

[Erin Blake]

Ah! Excellent point, Deborah. People using the Folger collection pretty
much ignore the 510 in open-stacks material: doesn't matter where the
journal is indexed, they'll have found it by a cross reference or by
googling.

It might be worth deleting the 510 from all open-stacks material before we
export to a discovery layer.

EB.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:09 AM Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>
wrote:

> I wonder if some of the resistance to indexing 510 traces back to when
> that field was used heavily in serial records for where they were indexed.
> That practice has been mostly discontinued, as far as I can tell, which
> makes a 510 index not only feasible but extremely useful. In a special
> collections context, materials may be commonly identified *by* a citation
> number. Not indexing the 510 is a disservice to knowledgeable users.
>
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> I for one can't imagine being able to do my job properly without a 510
> index.
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> However, I notice that many of the examples given in MARC Bibliographic
> <https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd510.html> are obsolete
> vis-à-vis current formulation according to Standard Citation Forms
> <http://rbms.info/scf/>. A job for an up-and-coming cataloger?
>
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> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu |
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> *From:* DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On Behalf Of *Erin
> Blake
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 October, 2018 09:59
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Indexing 510 locally
>
>
>
> We index the 510 separately in our OPAC. Users can pick the "Bibliographic
> citation" field in our "Advanced Search" (see
> https://folgerpedia.folger.edu/Searching_in_Hamnet#Advanced_Search_tab).
> It gets used a *lot* by our staff and researchers.
>
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>
> Erin.
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> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM Robert Maxwell <robert_maxwell at byu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> We index 510 in our catalog as a separate browse index. I assume it’s also
> indexed in the discovery layer by keyword like everything else (which isn’t
> very satisfactory).
>
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>
> If you’d like to see our index, go to the library catalog
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>
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> catalog.lib.byu.edu
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>
> Choose “other searches” to the left under “catalog searches”
>
>
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> Enter a citation in the “search for” box, e.g.
>
>
>
> Heller, E.R. Bibliography of the Grabhorn Press, 1915-1940
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>
> Click the “alphabetic search” radio button; then click “Citation” (below
> the search box)
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> The first search result is all the hits gathered together; this is
> followed by the individual records lined up by citation number.
>
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>
> We haven’t had any complaints about this being confusing (the index does
> index everything in any 510 field so there’s lots of extraneous stuff in
> it). As a cataloger I find this index extremely useful (for bibliographies
> that I want to try to figure out if we’ve included a 510 in all the
> relevant records). Special collections curators seem to like the index when
> I draw their attention to it but I’m not sure how frequently it’s used.
>
>
>
> Bob
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> Robert L. Maxwell
> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> (801)422-5568 <(801)%20422-5568>
>
>
>
> *From:* DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Hoover, Sarah
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:25 PM
> *To:* dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] Indexing 510 locally
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Our institution is currently preparing for the release of a new discovery
> layer, and special collections cataloging staff have requested the addition
> of indexing for the 510 field. This topic has been discussed in the past,
> and our technical staff have raised several concerns. Two of their main
> concerns are the haphazard use of the 510 outside of special collections,
> which would lead to misleading results, and the potential confusion for
> inexperienced users who don't understand why these results are coming up in
> their title search and who may be overwhelmed by the number of results this
> indexing could create. They are not convinced that the need for indexing
> instead of simply displaying the 510 outweighs these drawbacks.
>
>
>
> The staff designing the new discovery layer are asking for use cases to
> support indexing of the 510, and we have theoretical use cases but no
> specific examples of user stories where lack of indexing has been a problem
> to give them. Our research and instruction colleague had not realized the
> citations were not searchable, and did say that it would be beneficial for
> instruction prep research.
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>
>
> We were wondering whether there are any other institutions indexing the
> 510 in your local catalog. If so, have you gotten any user feedback about
> this feature? Did you have to advocate for it, and if so what helped make
> it successful? I found past discussions about advocating for 510 indexing
> in OCLC in the listserv archive, but not much discussion of local
> implementation.
>
>
>
> Thank you for any comments and experience you can share!
>
>
>
> Sarah
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> Sarah Hoover
>
> Special Collections Cataloger
>
> Wilson Special Collections Library
>
> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
>
> sehoover at email.unc.edu
>
> 919-962-4305 <(919)%20962-4305>
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