[DCRM-L] many, many misnumbered pages

[Joan Milligan]

Deborah,


First the pagination. It does not self-correct, so currently my 300 reads:

16 unnumbered pages, 334 [i.e. 323] pages, 29 unnumbered pages ; $b
illustration ; $c 21 cm (4o)

As for the u’s and v’s, you are right, it is: TRATADO BREVE DEL DVLCISSIMO
NOMBRE DE MARIA. Words on page [iii]: Cvmpliendo … con gusto … Reuerendo
Padre…” Both the u’s and v’s are roman, medial, and used as vowels.

I think where I get stuck is that I have been thinking about the letters’
use in the words. I mean, clearly the typesetter has both u’s and v’s, so
why use a “u” in “gusto” (a correct modern spelling), while also using it
in the word “Reueredno” (Reverendo)? And why use a “v” in ‘Cvmpliendo”
(Cumpliendo)? The use of the u’s and v’s are not consistent in my mind. Is
that all irrelevant? Just transcribe according to the rules and stop
overthinking?

Thank you for your help.=!


Joan


Joan Milligan
Special Collections Cataloger
University of Dayton Libraries
300 College Park
Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360
937-229-4075
jmilligan1 at udayton.edu




On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:56 AM Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>
wrote:

> The rule of thumb in how to treat misnumberings is whether the
> misnumberings are self-correcting, and I can't tell from your description.
> If self-correcting, that is, if the misnumberings are anomalous and the
> last numbered page corresponds to the actual number of pages in the
> sequence, ignore the misnumberings in the pagination. A note may be made
> about the misnumberings, but is optional (unless a misnumbering represents
> the last page of a sequence).
>
>
>
> However, I believe your book is OCLC #433778755, yes? Apparently the
> pagination does not self-correct, although their method in the 300$a is not
> the preferred way to record the fact that the last numbered page doesn't
> correspond with the actual number of pages. Review DCRM(B) 5B7.2.
>
>
>
> You'll also want to re-check the UV in your title transcription. Be
> suspicious of all uppercase V's, and follow the practice of the printer for
> type classification (e.g., roman), use (vowel or consonant), and position
> (initial or medial). The conventional lowercase forms for uppercase 'V' for
> the time would be an initial lowercase 'v'—regardless of vowel or
> consonant—and a medial lowercase 'u'—again, regardless of whether it's a
> vowel or consonant.  Without seeing the title page, I'd guess it reads TRATADO
> BREVE DEL DVLCISSIMO NOMBRE DE MARIA, with corresponding lowercase forms
> of 'V' as Tratado breue del dulcissimo nombre de Maria, which is exactly
> how the Biblioteca Nacional de Espana has done it. Of course, you will add
> a 246 for the title with uppercase V's.
>
>
>
> Thanks for asking the question, Joan, and I encourage more questions like
> these. No need to sweat things out alone!
>
>
>
> Deborah J. Leslie, MA, MLS | Senior Cataloger, Folger Shakespeare Library
> | djleslie at folger.edu | 201 East Capitol Street, S.E. | Washington, DC
> 20003 | 202.675-0369 | orcid.org 0000-0001-5848-5467
>
>
>
> *From:* DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On Behalf Of *O'Keefe,
> Doris
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 July, 2019 10:03
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] many, many misnumbered pages
>
>
>
> Joan,
>
>
>
> At the American Antiquarian Society our standard note is:
>
>
>
> Errors in paging: p. 15, 43, 46 misnumbered 51, 45, 47.
>
>
>
> Eleven is a lot of misnumbered pages! To make the note more concise, if
> the errors are consecutive we’d note:
>
>
>
> Errors in paging: p. 15, 43-46 misnumbered 51, 45-48.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Doris O’Keefe
>
> Senior Cataloger for Rare Books
>
> American Antiquarian Society
>
> 185 Salisbury Street
>
> Worcester, Mass 01609
>
> (508) 471-2145
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
> <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Joan Milligan
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:54 AM
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] many, many misnumbered pages
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I need help in phrasing two notes in a more correct and sleek manner. For
> the first, I currently I have:
>
>           *Eleven pages missing: 62, 87, 235-242, 312.*
>
> But, the truth is, the 11 pages are not missing, per se, they are
> misnumbered. That is, the pagination is, for instance:
>
> … 60, 61, 63, 64 …
>
> … 233, 234, 243, 244, 245 ...
>
>
>
> In addition, I have:
>
>           *Eleven pages misnumbered: 15, 43, 46, 49, 118, 119, 180, 249,
> 253, 255, 309. *
>
> That is, page 15 says “51”; page 43 says “45”; page 46 says “47”; etc.
>
>
>
> Should all of this information be in one note?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joan
>
>
>
> Joan Milligan
>
> Special Collections Cataloger
>
> University of Dayton Libraries
>
> 300 College Park
>
> Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360
>
> 937-229-4075
>
> jmilligan1 at udayton.edu
>
>
>
>
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