[DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?

Tue Jul 30 10:27:29 MDT 2019

For some background, ARLIS-UK submitted a fast track proposal back in 2014
to add a relationship designator for curator at the work level, and to
revise the existing curator relationship designator at the item level.

As a fast track proposal, this did not go through full public review, but
this one was brought to the attention of BSC. There was ample discussion on
DCRM-L, and RBMS submitted a lengthy response proposing revisions to the
ARLIS-UK proposal by way of our CC:DA liaison (me, at the time).

The original proposal and our responses can be found on the DCRM-RDA wiki,
seen in the second entry on this chart:

http://dcrmrda.pbworks.com/w/page/82990804/CCDA%20and%20JSC%3A%20selected%20working%20docs

Many of the suggestions went beyond the scope of the original proposal, and
so would have required separate fast track or full revision proposals,
which we never formally pursued.

So we narrowed our response to the proposal at hand as follows:

*curator* (work) A person, family, or corporate body conceiving, and/or
organizing an exhibit * or collection.*

*curator* (item) A person, family, or corporate body *managing* and/or
preparing *a**n item in* an exhibit *or* collection. or other item.

Rationale: Curators may curate works besides exhibits in the context of
museum, library, archival, and other collections which may not yet or no
longer exist, and may never be exhibited. These entities may nonetheless be
named as curators with respect to those collections and works about those
collections.

The ARLIS-UK proposal went unresolved at the November 2014 JSC meeting, and
the JSC/RSC never revisited it. I believe ARLIS-US was also considering a
similar proposal around the same time as well, but the JSC then implemented
a moratorium on relationship designator proposals.

Matt

On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:38 AM Liz OKeefe <lokeefe411 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I checked with the chair of the ARLIS/NA Cataloging Advisory Committee,
> who agreed with Bob Maxwell that the proposal is now in the hands of
> CC:DDA. Amanda Ros posted yesterday morning on the rules list-serv inviting
> comments; as Bob said, comments from the RBMS community should come from
> the RBMS Liaison. We look forward to the CC:DA's decision.
>
> Liz O'Keefe
> Member, ARLIS/NA Cataloging Advisory Committee
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:22 PM <dcrm-l-request at lib.byu.edu> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>>       (Robert Maxwell)
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>> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:21:29 +0000
>> From: Robert Maxwell <robert_maxwell at byu.edu>
>> To: "DCRM Users' Group" <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item
>>         relationship?
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>> My name is on the proposal as chair of one of the contributing
>> subcommittees, and I did contribute personally but it's left the
>> subcommittees and right now it's with CC:DA and ARLIS/NA, so probably it
>> would be best (at least from the CC:DA perspective) for comments such as
>> these to be posted on the CC:DA list by the RBMS liaison to CC:DA. I'm not
>> sure how ARLIS/NA is taking comments.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>>
>> Robert L. Maxwell
>> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Librarian
>> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> (801)422-5568
>>
>> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> On Behalf Of Lapka, Francis
>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 12:02 PM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>>
>> Bob, I appreciation your clarifications.
>>
>> I welcome the idea of curator relationship to works, but I wonder if it
>> would be better for RDA to simplify the curator relationships by
>> acknowledging the two strongest use cases for resource description:
>>
>>
>>   1.  A curator responsible for deciding that an item should be acquired
>> for a collection, as noted by Erin below. Obviously this is an Item
>> relationship.
>>   2.  An exhibition curator, who creates an exhibition work (or event),
>> with a definition as described in your proposal. This a Work relationship.
>>
>> I think the curator relationship at the Item level should omit mention of
>> exhibitions. Items in an exhibition can and should be related to an agent
>> through the Work, i.e.: an exhibition curator creates an exhibition Work
>> which in turn includes an Item.
>>
>> Francis
>>
>>
>> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:
>> dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>> On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:15 PM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>>
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>>
>>
>> Clarifying my last sentence: the word "item" in this case means the
>> collection as a whole, not an individual "item" in the collection. In the
>> FRBR/LRM/RDA framework a collection exists at all the WEMI levels so it is
>> appropriate to think of the collection as a whole as an "item", even though
>> there is only one item (the collection), one manifestation (the same
>> collection), one expression (the same collection), and one work (the same
>> collection).
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> Robert L. Maxwell
>> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger
>> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> (801)422-5568
>>
>> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine
>> ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow,
>> 1842.
>> ________________________________
>> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:
>> dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>> on behalf of Robert Maxwell <
>> robert_maxwell at byu.edu<mailto:robert_maxwell at byu.edu>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:10 PM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>>
>>
>> I was going to note the proposal. The revision proposal is for the
>> creation of a new relationship element at the work level to allow a
>> relationship between (for example) a person who is curator of an exhibition
>> and a work produced by that exhibition (e.g. an exhibition catalog). (The
>> current RDA relationship element is at the item level and so would not be
>> appropriate to use to link an exhibition curator with the exhibition
>> catalog.)
>>
>>
>>
>> As to the specific question, I don't have a record to point you to, but I
>> would think that if a catalog record were created for a collection--e.g. at
>> BYU we have science fiction writer Orson Scott Card's papers and there is a
>> record in the catalog for that collection--the curator of the collection
>> could appropriately be included in the record with the relationship
>> "curator" and this would be at the item level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> Robert L. Maxwell
>> Ancient Languages and Special Collections Cataloger
>> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
>> Brigham Young University
>> Provo, UT 84602
>> (801)422-5568
>>
>> "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine
>> ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow,
>> 1842.
>> ________________________________
>> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:
>> dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>> on behalf of Lapka, Francis <
>> francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:02 PM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>>
>> Of related interest is an RDA revision proposal drafted by ARLIS/NA and
>> the CC:DA 3R Task Force. See attachment.
>>
>> Francis
>>
>>
>> Francis Lapka
>> Senior Catalogue Librarian
>> Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts
>> Yale Center for British Art
>> 203-432-9672  *  francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:
>> dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>> On Behalf Of Erin Blake
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:02 PM
>> To: DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>>
>> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Examples of "Curator" in agent to item relationship?
>>
>> I guess "curator" could be an item-specific relationship if you go far
>> enough down the rabbit hole: we have a field in our Acquisitions module
>> where we record the curator responsible for deciding a collection item
>> should be acquired (an issue because it's often mistaken for the curator
>> whose budget it came from, but it's the intellectual contribution we're
>> documenting; the financial contribution is recorded elsewhere). That field
>> could, in theory, be part of the MARC record in the OPAC.
>>
>> Erin.
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:23 PM Liz OKeefe <lokeefe411 at gmail.com<mailto:
>> lokeefe411 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> During a recent conversation with colleagues from the ARLIS/NA Cataloging
>> Advisory Committee, someone asked for examples of bibliographic records in
>> which "curator" was used in an agent to item relationship. No one was able
>> to come up offhand with examples, and it's difficult, if not impossible, to
>> search OPACs for records where "curator" is used in this way. Could someone
>> on DCRM-L help us out? Thanks.
>>
>> Liz O'Keefe
>> Member, ARLIS/NA Cataloging Advisory Committee
>>
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