[DCRM-L] Help with problem subject heading

Mon Aug 10 15:09:36 MDT 2020

I really like the idea of using “Noble savage stereotype” and “Noble savage stereotype in literature,” Matthew. Are you thinking of submitting a SACO proposal (or two) for these? It would be a great thing to do, if you have time.

Best regards,

Margaret

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Margaret F. Nichols
Rare Materials Cataloging Coordinator
Cornell University

From: DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> On Behalf Of Matthew C. Haugen
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 4:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Help with problem subject heading

I see LCSH also has "Noble savage in literature" as a separate heading. So if a work is about that literary trope/stock character, perhaps:

Indigenous peoples in literature [or art, motion pictures, opera, popular culture]

Or if it's about the use of such stock characters by a specific author, e.g.

Burroughs, Edgar Rice, $d 1875-1950 $x Characters $x Indigenous peoples.

A lot of similar named stock character types or stereotypes don't seem to be established in LCSH, but insofar as there is any remaining literary warrant for the current terminology as a named stereotype with works about it, maybe the existing LCSHs could be revised to call it what it is more specifically, perhaps along the lines of a few others I see in LCSH (Model minority stereotype, Strong black woman stereotype), e.g.:

Replace 150: $a Noble savage stereotype
Add 550: ǂw g ǂa Stereotypes (Social psychology)

Replace 150: $a Noble savage stereotype in literature
Add 550: $a Indigenous peoples in literature

Matthew

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:15 PM Schneider, Nina <nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu<mailto:nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu>> wrote:
Dear Jane,

Thank you! Ironically, all of the titles that had Noble Savage in the subject headings in our catalog were by Rousseau!

I will discuss this option with my colleagues.

Nina

From: DCRM-L [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu<mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] On Behalf Of Jane Wickenden
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2020 11:49 AM
To: DCRM Users' Group
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Help with problem subject heading

Hi Bob and Nina,

I wonder if, in order to make the term more universal (especially given that the concept seems to have originated in Europe - although Rousseau never used the phrase, not even in French), "Indigenous peoples - Stereotypes (Social psychology)" would be better?

Geographical and / or historical sub-fields could be added as wished.

Best wishes,

Jane
(basking in [stereo]typical grey British summer)

On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 at 19:13, Bob Kosovsky <bobkosovsky at nypl.org<mailto:bobkosovsky at nypl.org>> wrote:
Hi Nina,

What about: "Indians of North America" combined with "Stereotypes (Social psychology) $v United States" ?

All the best,

Bob

Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Librarian, Rare Books and Manuscripts,
Music & Recorded Sound Division
The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts - Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Center

40 Lincoln Center Plaza, New York, NY 10023
www.nypl.org<http://www.nypl.org>

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 1:59 PM Schneider, Nina <nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu<mailto:nschneider at humnet.ucla.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

I know some of you are belong to the Facebook group to which I posted this question last night. I thought I should ask this group since, although not necessarily a rare books question, probably comes up more frequently in special collections.

Has anyone found a workaround for the LCSH term “Noble savage” that retains the concept/idea of the term without actually using it?

Strangely, there’s been faculty pushback about eliminating the subject heading from our records altogether, which is my preferred option.

Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

Nina

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