[DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 187, Issue 7

Fri Sep 17 15:05:01 MDT 2021

Lol! I should have indeed edited the second example :)))
As always, thank you so much for your kind help!
Bonne fin de semaine à toi aussi,

Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho
Bibliothécaire responsable du traitement documentaire des collections iconographiques et de l'ISNI
Direction des métadonnées et de la normalisation bibliographiques
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   2. Re: Quick question on dimensions in DCRM(G) (Erin Blake)

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Happy Friday everyone!

I have a quick question concerning the dimensions of portfolios :

If a portfolio containing prints has a vertical orientation, should I provide only the height of the portfolio, or its height x its width? If I was providing the dimensions of the prints inside the portfolio, I would give both dimensions, but my colleagues cataloguing books with RDA only record the height of portfolios. I checked under 5D4.4 to see what DCRMG says on the matter, but the example provided is for a portfolio that has a "landscape format"...

Here is my example (excuse my French, hehehe)

According to DCRM, should I record :

30 // $a1 estampe dans 1 portfolio :$bimpression par jet d'encre en couleur, sur papier v?lin blanc ;$cportfolio 35 x 27 cm OR
30 // $a1 estampe dans 1 portfolio :$bimpression par jet d'encre en couleur, sur papier v?lin blanc ;$cportfolio 35 x 27 cm

Cheers :)

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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:27:53 -0400
From: Erin Blake <erin.blake.folger at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Quick question on dimensions in DCRM(G)
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Does "excuse my French" refer to the rude word you're about to say when you realize that you hit "send" before editing the second example, so the two options as sent are, in fact, identical?

The General Rule at 5D1.1 has the answer. "record dimensions in terms of height x width and specify what was measured."

Assuming that the print was issued in a portfolio, your three choices according to DCRM(G) would be

   1. record height x width of the support *and *the portfolio,
   2. record height x width of the image *and *the support *and *the
   portfolio
   3. record height x width of just the portfolio

The catch is that "height x width" is defined by the way the item is meant to be viewed, so if it's a landscape-orientation print inside a portrait-orientation portfolio (which would be pretty unusual) and you give dimensions of more than just the portfolio, you would have something weird looking like this:

300 // $a1 estampe dans 1 portfolio :$bimpression par jet d'encre en couleur, sur papier v?lin blanc ;$cimage 15 x 20 cm, feuille 26 x 34 cm, portfolio 35 x 27 cm

Bonne journ?e, et bonne fin de semaine,

Erin.

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On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 10:16 AM L'?cuyer-Coelho, Marie-Chantal < MC.Coelho at banq.qc.ca> wrote:

> Happy Friday everyone!
>
>
>
> I have a quick question concerning the dimensions of portfolios :
>
>
>
> If a portfolio containing prints has a vertical orientation, should I
> provide only the height of the portfolio, or its height x its width?
> If I was providing the dimensions of the prints inside the portfolio,
> I would give both dimensions, but my colleagues cataloguing books with
> RDA only record the height of portfolios. I checked under 5D4.4 to see
> what DCRMG says on the matter, but the example provided is for a
> portfolio that has a ?landscape format??
>
>
>
> Here is my example (excuse my French, hehehe)
>
>
>
> According to DCRM, should I record :
>
>
>
> 30 // $a1 estampe dans 1 portfolio :$bimpression par jet d'encre en
> couleur, sur papier v?lin blanc ;$cportfolio 35 x 27 cm
>
> OR
>
> 30 // $a1 estampe dans 1 portfolio :$bimpression par jet d'encre en
> couleur, sur papier v?lin blanc ;$cportfolio 35 x 27 cm
>
>
>
> Cheers :)
>
>
>
> *Marie-Chantal L'Ecuyer-Coelho*
>
> Biblioth?caire responsable du traitement documentaire des collections
> iconographiques et de l?ISNI
>
> Direction des m?tadonn?es et de la normalisation bibliographiques
>
> Biblioth?que et Archives nationales du Qu?bec
>
>
>
> 2275, rue Holt
>
> Montr?al (Qu?bec) H2G 3H1
>
> T?l?phone : (514) 873-1101, poste 3730
>
> mc.coelho at banq.qc.ca
>
>
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