[DCRM-L] Bound-with or published together?

[Joseph Ross]

Lucretia and respondents,

The title page of the first piece Historia universalis atheism clearly
indicates that the second work is found at the end:  Accessit in fine Idea
Compendii Theologici .  Idea Compendii was published with Historia
universalis.  The others are bound with them.  They still require separate
records but there should be a general note that the two works were
published together according to the title page information Accessit in fine
Idea Compendii Theologici.

Joseph Ross
retired rare books cataloger


On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 5:32 PM Lucretia Baskin via DCRM-L <
dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu> wrote:

> With that information, I agree with you and Ruth-Ellen that the incorrect
> placement is due to a binder error at some unknown date, and would also
> catalog this as a sammelband/bound-with with 4 works.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lucretia
>
> On Jul 19, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Tess Amram via DCRM-L <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Lucretia – The catchword does match the page that ought to come next, if
> the *Idea compendii theologici* weren’t in between. The register doesn’t
> match, but the records in OCLC note that *Idea compendii theologici*
> always has its own register. There’s also no catchword
>
>
>
> Ruth-Ellen – I’m inclined to agree that bound-with treatment seems like
> the best way to go. I’m leaning towards treating it as four different works
> (as opposed to treating the first two works as a unit), with a binding
> error when it was assembled.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>
> Tess Amram (they/them)
>
> Special Materials and Continuing Resources Cataloging Librarian, Teaching
> Assistant Professor
>
> Resource Description Services Team
>
> N110J University Libraries
>
> University of Colorado Boulder
>
> Boulder, Colorado 80309
>
> Email: Tess.Amram at colorado.edu
>
> Phone: 303-492-1492
>
>
>
> *From:* DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Lucretia
> Baskin via DCRM-L
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2024 2:54 PM
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> *Cc:* Lucretia Baskin <lucretia.baskin at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Bound-with or published together?
>
>
>
> [External email - use caution]
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>
> Greetings,
>
>
>
> I wonder if the first two items were in fact published together? Does the
> catchword on the page before the title page of item two match the later
> portion? It seems like it might match this second title page, but not
> exactly, because of the name at the head. And, does the register of these
> two items get interrupted, or is it continuous?
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> Lucretia
>
>
>
> Lucretia Baskin
>
> Rare Books and Manuscripts Cataloger
>
> Boston Public Library
>
> 700 Boylston Street
>
> Boston, Massachusetts
>
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2024, at 4:01 PM, Ruth Ellen St. Onge via DCRM-L <
> dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Good afternoon,
>
>
>
> Personally, I would treat it as a bound-with and create records for each
> of the works. The sammelbands I have been cataloguing recently are often
> compilations of pamphlets and short works printed and/or published
> separately but written in response to an ongoing debate. This example is
> also cool because the fourth work is printed by the widow of the printer
> Meyer. My guess is that there are no existing records, or only bare-bones
> records for some of the works, because they are relatively obscure.
> However, I could be wrong!
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> Ruth-Ellen
>
>
>
> *Ruth-Ellen St. Onge*, MISt, PhD
> (She/Her/They)
>
> Distinctive Collections Cataloguing Librarian
>
> Archives and Research Collections
> McMaster University Library
>
>  stongr2 at mcmaster.ca
>
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> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 at 15:34, Tess Amram via DCRM-L <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Hello, fellow catalogers!
>
>
>
> I have a bit of a mystery of an item on my hands, and I can’t tell whether
> to treat it as a bound-with or a single work. Let me explain:
>
>
>
> The first work in this item is Jacob Friedrich Reimmann’s *Historia
> universalis atheism et atheorum…*, with a publication date of 1725. All
> the records in OCLC that I can find specify that this was published
> together with Reimmann’s *Idea compendii theologici…*, published 1724,
> added at the end. However, the copy I have in hand has a 1725 edition of
> the *Idea compendia theologici…*, and it’s bound in at the beginning,
> after the first [32] pages of the *Historia*, which picks up again after
> the *Idea compendii.* At the end of the text of the *Historia*, there is
> a corrigenda leaf that I can find no mention of in any existing record.
>
>
>
> Complicating matters is that there are two other works also bound into
> this item. The first is Reimmann’s *Diatribe anti-critica*, published
> 1726, followed by a work titled *Vindiciae nominis Buddeani contra
> obtrectationes nuperas Iac. Frid. Reimmanni*, also dated 1726, which OCLC
> tells me is attributed to Johann Heinrich Kromayer. From what I can tell,
> these latter two are volleys in an ongoing debate between Reimmann and
> Kromayer about Johann Franz Buddeus. There’s no English copy for the
> *Vindiciae*, and only one bare-bones English record for the *Diatribe*
> that I can find, which makes me unsure if these were published individually.
>
>
>
> Basically, I’m unsure if I should treat this item as one single published
> item with four related works in it, or as four works in a bound-with. I’ve
> attached pictures of the title pages of the four works in question. Can
> anyone shed any light on the situation?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tess Amram (they/them)
>
> Special Materials and Continuing Resources Cataloging Librarian, Teaching
> Assistant Professor
>
> Resource Description Services Team
>
> N110J University Libraries
>
> University of Colorado Boulder
>
> Boulder, Colorado 80309
>
> Email: Tess.Amram at colorado.edu
>
> Phone: 303-492-1492
>
>
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