[DCRM-L] Subject: Inferred [par.] in signature statement -- double square brackets or no?

[Deborah J. Leslie]

I like Stefan's suggestion, with one quibble—the fact that there's an pi4 in the signature statement means that there's an initial unsigned gathering of four leaves, making the explanation redundant.



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Hello Jennifer,



As a newcomer to this list and from my own experience with this topic (https://verbundwiki.gbv.de/x/HYD_Cw), I would make a distinction in the designation between the second and third gathering and label the first gathering as unsigned.



The formula would look like this:

pi⁴ 2[par. curled]⁴ 2[par. straight]⁴ A-2I⁴; first gathering unsigned.



So far, I have only treated this case hypothetically (https://verbundwiki.gbv.de/download/attachments/201228317/Lagensignaturen_Vertiefung.pdf). Do you have exact title details, or a link to an existing digital copy?



Best,

Stefan

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Hello,



I'm hoping the collective wisdom of the list can point me in the right direction of how best to render the signatures for the preliminary gatherings of the item I'm cataloging. The first gathering is unsigned; gathering 2 signed  ❡ ❡ (paragraph mark with curled tail) and gathering 3, with ¶ ¶ (paragraph mark with straight tail). I'm inclined to render the inferred par. as [[par.]], with a note that it is unsigned for clarity, and the third gathering as ²2[par.]:



Signatures: [[par.]]⁴ 2[par.]⁴ ²2[par.]⁴ A-2I⁴; first gathering unsigned.



Alternatively, I could simply omit the second set of brackets and retain the unsigned note.



Signatures: [par.]⁴ 2[par.]⁴ ²2[par.]⁴ A-2I⁴; first gathering unsigned.



Since the type used for the [par.] signs for the second and third gathering are different I don't feel comfortable rendering the third gathering as 3[par.] with a missigned note. How have others dealt with similar situations?



Thanks in advance!



Best,

Jennifer









Jennifer Dunlap

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John Carter Brown Library

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