[DCRM-L] Possible error/variant: OCLC#5719681/ESTC R11411 (Master Rigby's speech...)

[Ashley Shaw]

Hello Seth,
Based on my work with ESTC, they usually take their information from the most prominent OCLC print record. Looking at other records and the online scans available in ProQuest, I would wager that the [4] pages in this OCLC # is the result of a cataloger counting an additional front flyleaf of a rebound copy, another blank leaf in part of a bound-with volume, or the blank [A1] and [A4] as the [4] pages. I would not count this as a variant but perhaps notify ESTC of the pagination anomaly.

Regards,
Ashley Shaw
Special Collections Cataloging Specialist
J. Willard Marriott Library
University of Utah
ashley.shaw at utah.edu

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Subject: [DCRM-L] Possible error/variant: OCLC#5719681/ESTC R11411 (Master Rigby's speech...)

I have in hand a pamphlet which is a very close match to ESTC R11411 (OCLC# 5719681 and others), but I am wondering if I have a variant copy or if ESTC has an error. The ESTC record gives pagination as [4], 4, but the signing pattern suggests that there should be [2] pages at the end to account for leaf A4 (missing in my copy). Would others consider this a variant and create a new record, or update an existing one to reflect a (possible) ideal copy?

Seth Huber
Head of Cataloging
University of Missouri-Columbia
huberse at missouri.edu<mailto:huberse at missouri.edu>
573-884-4648

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