[DCRB-L] DCRM(B) series area

[Jain Fletcher]

Deborah,
   Your message and your words are galvanizing.  Thanks for giving us 
this update.  I was sitting next to Bob when we both learned of Judy's 
(ahem) interpretation of the series rule.  She kept telling us (in 
response to Bob's very vociferous objections) that "We [serials-types] 
told you [monograph-types] to come to our hearings about this issue 
because things were changing!" However, when things were changing, I 
wasn't seeing anything so momentous in this area, or I would have been 
at hearings--as would many others.  I even went after the session to the
ALA store to look at the rule in AACR2R (2002).  I didn't see then and I
still don't see anything written there (Ch. 1 & 2) that changes the 
practice we have been using. In fact, IMO, the only thing the added Ch. 
12 stuff does is give better guidance on how to make SARs--both the 
title and the xrefs--but not how to *transcribe* (yes, the word used in 
Ch. 1-2) the series in a monograph record.  I realized afterwards that 
Judy's (ahem) narrow take on this matter has come because she is so 
focused in her own work on "big picture" series/serials issues.  

Still, no matter what transpires (tho' I agree with you: "This will 
not stand!"), I found myself thinking during that presentation that I 
was glad we had developed the General Principles, so that we could 
diverge from AACR2 when needed.  (In fact, I'm not sure if I said at 
the meeting, but I do think we may want to use FRBR as our 
foundational principles, even while trying to correlate with AACR2 as 
much as possible.) 
					Thanks again, Jain
**Note to self: re-sub to AutoCat--it sounds like it's finally getting 
interesting again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:42:04 -0500 "Deborah J. Leslie" 
<DJLeslie at folger.edu> wrote:

>  I also want to reassure everyone on this list that many people are 
considerably angry about this and determined not to let the 4xx spiral 
off its transcription identity.  Several of us ran into some LC people 
by chance in Philadelphia, and THEY brought the topic up. Although for 
DCRM we can conceivably ignore the interpretation Judy Kuhagen has 
given to the constellation of rules governing series transcription, 
this is something much larger than ourselves and should be tackled on 
that level. The waters have been stirred up. "This will not stand" (to 
quote myself in a moment of impassioned outrage).
> 
> ___________________________
> Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Maxwell [mailto:robert_maxwell at byu.edu] 
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:37 AM
> > To: dcrb-l at lib.byu.edu
> > Subject: RE: [DCRB-L] DCRM(B) series area
> > 
> > 
> > Richard & al.:
> > 
> > You are not the only one unhappy about this, and you should know that
> > discussion of the issue is about to begin on the CC:DA list. 
> > 
> > As ACRL liaison to CC:DA and representing the BSC I have also 
> > written a note of protest to our JSC representatives.
> > 
> > Robert L. Maxwell
> > Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
> > Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
> > 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > (801)422-5568 

Jain Fletcher 
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