[DCRM-L] FW: From Dan R., RE: DCRB revision

[Deborah J. Leslie]

Forwarded from Dan Rettberg.  
 
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From: Rettberg, Dan [mailto:drettberg at huc.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:30 PM
To: Deborah J. Leslie
Subject: FW: From Dan R., RE: DCRB revision 



Dear Leslie-- 

I checked your text for non-Roman signatures for the proposed revision
of 
DCRB. Just a couple of comments. 

1. I like the way you have included the language as a part of the 
description, i.e. (in Hebrew). My practice has been to make a separate
note, 
"Gatherings signed in Hebrew characters". 

2. I would use "alef", rather than "alif", for the first letter of the 
Hebrew alphabet. So far as I'm aware, "alif", with a long "i" and the
accent 
on the second syllable, is a linguistic term, probably derived from
Arabic. 
The standard English spelling for the first letter of the Hebrew
alphabet is 
"alef", with the "e" pronounced as a short vowel, and the accent on the 
first syllable. 

3. I find it interesting that you appear to leave it to the discretion
of 
the cataloger as to whether to use transliterated forms of the Hebrew 
character names, or Arabic numerals based on, I assume, the actual
evidence 
in the piece. By the way, I don't think I mentioned in my last e-mail on

this subject that classical Greek uses the characters of the alphabet 
numerically as well. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, although
the 
so-called Arabic numerals were first used in India as early as the third

century B.C.E., they did not come to the West until the tenth century. 

4. Keeping in mind that classical Hebrew and Greek do not distinguish 
between upper and lower case, I would give a default form for those
electing 
to use the transliterated forms of letter names, i.e. as to whether to 
capitalize the first letter of the name or not. 

I hope these comments are helpful. 

Dan 
drettberg at huc.edu 


7B9. Signatures 

.. If the volume is signed with nonroman characters, include an
indication 
of the script used in parentheses before the colon. Ascertain whether
the 
signing follows a numeric or alphabetic sequence. For a numeric
sequence, 
represent the characters using arabic numerals. Indicate the presence of

inferred numbers within the sequence using square brackets. 

Signatures (in Hebrew): 1-114 
(Editorial comment: Indicates a numeric sequence beginning with [alif]
and 
ending with [yod alif]) 

Signatures (in Hebrew): [1]2 2-102 
(Editorial comment: Indicates a numeric sequence with the first
gathering 
unsigned and the remaining gatherings signed [beth]-[yod]) 

For an alphabetic sequence, if the language has conventional names for
the 
letters, as in Greek or Hebrew, substitute roman-alphabet words in
square 
brackets. Capitalize the first letter of each word if the characters in
the 
signatures are uppercase letters; do not capitalize if the characters
are 
lowercase letters. Do not use double brackets to supply inferred
gatherings; 
instead, condense the sequence and provide an explanation at the end of
the 
note. 

Signatures (in Greek): pi1 [alpha]-[gamma]2 [Alpha]-2[Lambda]2 

Signatures (in Greek): [alpha]-[delta]4; the [gamma] gathering is
inferred 

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From: Deborah J. Leslie [mailto:DJLeslie at FOLGER.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:21 PM 
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