[DCRM-L] Citing the new ESTC

[Robert Maxwell]

That's actually my point--I don't really think a lot of useful
information is conveyed to the user when we tell them we're citing ESTC
from RLIN vs ESTC from BL. Particularly when our catalog will now be
full of references to a non-existent database, ESTC (RLIN) as soon as it
goes away so users won't be able to go there anyway. Theoretically it's
the same bibliography. I like Brian's suggestion that we just use ESTC
and let that be that.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568  

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>[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Hillyard, Brian
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:43 AM
>To: DCRM Revision Group List
>Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] Citing the new ESTC
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>But I don't see that you could do a global change from ESTC 
>(RLIN) to ESTC (BL) [or whatever] because that ignores the 
>principle that the reference is correct only at the time when 
>book and record are compared.
>
>Mirroring the CD-ROM and microfiche citations, the only 
>satisfactory citation would be one giving the date when the 
>book/record comparison was made ....  The advantage of 
>specifying the resource would be as a rough way of indicating 
>how long ago the reference was made.  But are most users going 
>to have the background knowledge?  (If this is the intention, 
>Standard Citation Forms should give dates for BLAISE, RLIN, 
>etc. versions, which it doesn't.)  
>
>Is it worth using anything other than unqualified "ESTC", at 
>least for the online resources?  I don't know what archiving 
>is in place, but I doubt that in most cases it would be 
>possible to establish what the record was at the time.
>
>By the way, if we are prepared to do global changes from 
>ESTC(RLIN) to ESTC(BL), is there any significance in these 
>qualifications?  All we're really doing is telling our users 
>where they can find these.  In that case it would be much 
>better to stick to unqualified "ESTC" and thus avoid 
>misleading users who see records with out-of-date qualifications.
>
>By the way, I'm full of admiration at all the effort that has 
>gone into the final proofing of DCRM(B).
>
>Best wishes
>
>Brian
>
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