[DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a name/title heading

[Elizabeth Robinson]

I just made three temporary junk bib records in our
OPAC (Voyager): one with a $e in the 100, another 
without $e in the 100, and a third as the name/title
string in a 700$t. Same name, same title for all three
bibs. To see what would happen when I searched, using
the name only in our Name/Title index. They all file
together. Which, I think, is what Deborah is looking
for.

So, Bob, it looks like Voyager does the ignoring of $e
as you imagined a system would/could.

I have found a name-only search in the Name/Title
index in Voyager is quite useful for grouping the
established and unestablished titles under a
particular name.

Elizabeth A. Robinson
Team Leader
Rare Book Cataloging Team
Special Materials Cataloging Division
Library of Congress
101 Independence Avenue SE, mailstop 4376
Washington, DC 20540-4376
(202)707-3408 (work)
(202)707-2453 (fax)
erob at loc.gov (email)
 
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are strictly my own

and not necessarily those of the Library of Congress.

--- Robert Maxwell <robert_maxwell at byu.edu> wrote:

> I would hope that if our systems ever managed to
> collocate works by work headings, i.e. by combining
> the 1XX field with 240, or 245 subfield a if 240
> were absent, it would be possible to instruct the
> system to ignore $e in the 1XX field for purposes of
> this procedure.
> 
> Actually, our system does collocate 1XX + 240,
> though we haven't been able to get it to go the
> second step and collocate 1XX + 245 in the absence
> of 240. I don't know how it would behave if a record
> had a 100 field with $e and a 240. I don't believe
> we have any records like this--our archival
> cataloging does use $e in 1XX but I doubt any of
> these records also have a 240. Deborah, can you give
> us an example or two of what these records look
> like?
> 
> Bob
> 
> Robert L. Maxwell
> Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog
> Librarian
> Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
> 6728 Harold B. Lee Library
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> (801)422-5568
> From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of
> Deborah J. Leslie
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:14 AM
> To: Rettberg, Dan; DCRM Revision Group List; DCRM
> Revision Group List
> Cc: MSS Catalogers
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a
> name/title heading
> 
> Thanks, Dan. Your response, in addition to a private
> message, makes me think I haven't been clear enough.
> I'm not talking about putting an added entry for a
> person on another record, but rather making an added
> entry to a work. It might be a 773 linking entry for
> host items, or may simply be a 700 related work
> name/title. Or even a 600 name/title subject
> heading.
> 
> Perhaps another way of thinking about it is how
> would we create a name/title authority record for a
> particular work for which we've entered under an
> author with a relator term. When I think about it
> that way, it seems obvious to me that the relator
> term, which in fact is not part of the person's
> heading, should drop off. But imagine that our opacs
> really worked properly and collocated works
> according to their work headings (by which I mean
> the main entry plus title, or uniform title main
> entry). This discrepancy between the way the person
> appeared on the main work and how he appeared in a
> name/title added entry would prevent appropriate
> collocation.
> ____________________________
> Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.
> Head of Cataloging
> Folger Shakespeare Library
> djleslie at folger.edu
> http://www.folger.edu<http://www.folger.edu/>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rettberg, Dan [mailto:drettberg at huc.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, 07 November, 2007 10:00
> To: DCRM Revision Group List; DCRM Revision Group
> List
> Cc: MSS Catalogers
> Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a
> name/title heading
> 
> Deborah--
> 
> Unless I misunderstand you, the whole point of a
> relator term is to distinguish that person as an
> editor, publisher, printer, etc. I would leave them
> in place so that someone searching for "Jones, John,
> \e printer" can access all such separately from
> "Jones, John".
> 
> Dan Rettberg
> Rare Book and Manuscript Bibliographer
> Klau Library
> Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion
> Cincinnati, Ohio
> 
> drettberg at huc.edu
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu on behalf of
> Deborah J. Leslie
> Sent: Tue 11/6/2007 5:02 PM
> To: DCRM Revision Group List
> Cc: MSS Catalogers
> Subject: [DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a
> name/title heading
> 
> At the Folger, we're using relator terms with 100
> main entry headings for our manuscripts. So what
> happens when we want to link to the heading for that
> work in another record? Do we retain the ?e?
> 
> My inclination is to say no, but then that creates a
> discrepancy between the heading for a work as it
> appears on the record for the work itself and as it
> appears linked from other records.
> 
> Thanks,
> Deborah
> 
> __________________________
> Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.
> Head of Cataloging
> Folger Shakespeare Library
> 201 East Capitol St., S.E.
> Washington, D.C. 20003
> 202.675-0369
> djleslie at folger.edu | http://www.folger.edu
> 
> 
> 


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