[DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a name/title heading

[Robert Maxwell]

I would hope that if our systems ever managed to collocate works by work headings, i.e. by combining the 1XX field with 240, or 245 subfield a if 240 were absent, it would be possible to instruct the system to ignore $e in the 1XX field for purposes of this procedure.

Actually, our system does collocate 1XX + 240, though we haven't been able to get it to go the second step and collocate 1XX + 245 in the absence of 240. I don't know how it would behave if a record had a 100 field with $e and a 240. I don't believe we have any records like this--our archival cataloging does use $e in 1XX but I doubt any of these records also have a 240. Deborah, can you give us an example or two of what these records look like?

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian
Genre/Form Authorities Librarian
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a name/title heading

Thanks, Dan. Your response, in addition to a private message, makes me think I haven't been clear enough. I'm not talking about putting an added entry for a person on another record, but rather making an added entry to a work. It might be a 773 linking entry for host items, or may simply be a 700 related work name/title. Or even a 600 name/title subject heading.

Perhaps another way of thinking about it is how would we create a name/title authority record for a particular work for which we've entered under an author with a relator term. When I think about it that way, it seems obvious to me that the relator term, which in fact is not part of the person's heading, should drop off. But imagine that our opacs really worked properly and collocated works according to their work headings (by which I mean the main entry plus title, or uniform title main entry). This discrepancy between the way the person appeared on the main work and how he appeared in a name/title added entry would prevent appropriate collocation.
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Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S.
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Folger Shakespeare Library
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From: Rettberg, Dan [mailto:drettberg at huc.edu]
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Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a name/title heading

Deborah--

Unless I misunderstand you, the whole point of a relator term is to distinguish that person as an editor, publisher, printer, etc. I would leave them in place so that someone searching for "Jones, John, \e printer" can access all such separately from "Jones, John".

Dan Rettberg
Rare Book and Manuscript Bibliographer
Klau Library
Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion
Cincinnati, Ohio

drettberg at huc.edu



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Subject: [DCRM-L] relator terms as part of a name/title heading

At the Folger, we're using relator terms with 100 main entry headings for our manuscripts. So what happens when we want to link to the heading for that work in another record? Do we retain the ?e?

My inclination is to say no, but then that creates a discrepancy between the heading for a work as it appears on the record for the work itself and as it appears linked from other records.

Thanks,
Deborah

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