[DCRM-L] Format for vellum?

Deborah J. Leslie DJLeslie at FOLGER.edu
Fri Nov 16 16:16:55 MST 2007


I remember that was possibly the most interesting thing I learned from
his class on the 15th-century book, that different presses were used for
different sizes. But maybe I can toss him this query to see what he
really does say.
 

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Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. 
Head of Cataloging 
Folger Shakespeare Library 
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Hmmm... An incunable. Tough little so-and-so's from the point of view of
format. Once I started encountering what seemed to be quartos in 6s (of
the 1490s), I began to twig to the fact that, the standard impositions
not having become absolutely routine, I must be looking at folios,
printed on small formes at one pull. That's made me cautious. You may
have more experience than I have with these little animals. I wonder
what Paul Needham would say...

Trying not to be dangerous with my little knowledge  - Richard

At 11/16/2007    05:40 PM, you wrote:


Thanks, Richard; that's what I was leaning toward, but wanted it
confirmed. This is a French incunable; signing and conjugacy, along with
size and shape, point to 8vo imposition. 
 
 

_____________________________ 
Deborah J. Leslie, M.A., M.L.S. 
Head of Cataloging 
Folger Shakespeare Library 
djleslie at folger.edu 
http://www.folger.edu <http://www.folger.edu/>  


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Absolutely, assuming that they were printed as sheets of vellum on type
imposed in the normal manner, as is generally the case, I believe. As
with 19th-c. books on wove paper, it can be hard to determine what the
imposition was--the imposition being the basis of format. My impression
is that whole skins would be approximately the same size as the most
common paper sizes, so that one can infer the format from the finished
size and proportions after folding; but I have little experience in
interpeting the evidence of format in vellum printing. I think this
might be better as an exlilbris-l query, and perhaps even better
book_arts-l, to cast a wider net.



RICHARD NOBLE : RARE BOOKS CATALOGER : JOHN HAY LIBRARY : BROWN
UNIVERSITY


PROVIDENCE, RI 02912 : 401-863-1187/FAX 863-2093 :
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Do books printed on vellum, properly speaking, have bibliographical
format? 



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Head of Cataloging 


Folger Shakespeare Library 


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