[DCRM-L] From Dan Rettberg, HUC Library, Cincinnati

[Deborah J. Leslie]

Hebrew then must use the first letter of the alphabet to signify 1, the
second to signify 2, and so forth, if you can't tell whether it's a
numeric or alphabetic sequence. So, use the rules for recording them as
a numeric sequence.  

 

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Thanks, Deborah, for your reply. I don't mean to cause confusion at this
late hour, the book being already published, but either my memory is
fuzzy or perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough. So far as I am
aware, apart from context, there is no way to distinguish between
alphabetic and numeric sequences of Hebrew/Aramaic characters. I checked
with one of my Israeli colleagues here at HUC, and she agrees. In the
case of signature markings added in both Hebrew characters and Arabic
numerals, I assume one could say that that is sufficient context to
determine that a numeric sequence is meant, but with those sequences
displaying signature markings only in Hebrew characters, I would say all
bets are off. 

 

Dan Rettberg

Rare Book and Manuscript Bibliographer

Klau Library

Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion

Cincinnati, Ohio

 

drettberg at huc.edu

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[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu]On Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
	Sent: Thu, January 24, 2008 4:06 PM
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	Hi Dan,

	 

	The division of the rules has nothing to do with whether there
is a mixture of Arabic and nonroman signatures, but whether the nonroman
signatures express a numeric sequence or an alphabetic sequence. 

	 

	7B9.7 applies to all signature statements containing nonroman
numeric sequences. This can apply to a mixture of Arabic numerals and
nonroman numerals, as well as Hebrew (Greek, Church Slavic, &c.) numeric
sequences only. If I remember your research, nearly all Hebrew signings
follow a numeric sequence, right? You had to look hard to find some that
expressed an alphabetic sequence. 

	 

	7B9.8-11 applies to alphabetic sequences of nonroman characters.
7B9.8 is the general rule. It is then followed by particular rules for
Greek (7B9.9) and Hebrew (7B9.10). Then we move into the scripts for
which printers did not follow standard sequence (Church Slavic), or
where a standard sequence is not known (7B9.11). 

	 

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[mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Rettberg, Dan
	Sent: Friday, 11 January, 2008 12:32
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	Subject: [DCRM-L] From Dan Rettberg, HUC Library, Cincinnati

	 

	Hello all--

	 

	I was reading in DCRM B this morning on the subject of non-Roman
signatures (specifically those signed in Hebrew script) and find I
remain a bit confused on the subject. There are two separate paragraphs
dealing in some way with Hebrew script signatures, namely 7B9.7 on
Nonroman signatures (numeric sequence) and 7B9.10 Hebrew alphabetic
signatures. I thought I followed and understood the outcome of the
discussion of this matter on this list, but apparently I missed
something. Is 7B9.7 meant to apply to those signature statements that
include both Hebrew characters and Arabic numerals and 7B9.10 meant to
apply to those expressed in Hebrew characters only?

	 

	Thanks,

	 

	Dan Rettberg

	Rare Book and Manuscript Bibliographer

	Klau Library

	Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion

	Cincinnati, Ohio

	 

	drettberg at huc.edu

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