[DCRM-L] Collation conundrum

[Noble, Richard]

I think the fact that pi1 is a blank leaf makes it all the more important
to assert the structure in the formula. *Making up some details*, I might
describe it as:

pi1[=B2] A^8 [B]^2(-B2) [$4 signed]; 10 leaves, pp. [2 unnumbered (blank)]
[1-3] 4-17 [18 (blank)]. Note: Leaves pi1 and pi2 observed conjugate in XXX
copy.

With less descriptive vegetation, one would simply note the conjugacy of
the two outer leaves. NOte that the "cancellation" of B2 means only that it
is not in its normal position--it has been "removed" (analogous to the
British use of "remove" to mean moving house). Alternatively, in a case
like this, one could write pi^2(pi1 + A^8). It's natural enough to let
those outer leaves serve as a self-wrapper, and to infer that the pamphlet
was designed to be issued that way, though the printer was too lazy to set
up a half title.

What's uncommon about this is that the initial leaf is entirely blank. If
this were a larger book, and the leaves had to be separated to be bound
first and last, one could write e.g. pi1[=N2] A-M^8 [N]^2(-N2) -- but *only* if
pi1 were not blank. In most cases N2, if blank, it would simply follow N1,
unless the binder snatched it. Even if N2 were placed before A1 to serve as
a flyleaf, that would be a binder's trick, not an ideal-copy feature.

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Date: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Collation conundrum
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I've also seen, but do not know if it's correct:

500  Signatures: pi1 A^8 chi1; leaf chi1 = pi2.

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-----Original Message-----
From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
Sent: 19 November 2012 17:14
To: 'DCRM Revision Group List'
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Collation conundrum

I've dealt with this issue before but don't remember how it was resolved.
Because it's a bifolium, it seems to make a little more sense to render it:

500 Signatures: pi^2 A^8; pi2 wraps around to enclose gathering A.

There must be a better way to word the note.



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-----Original Message-----
From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On
Behalf Of Lenore Rouse
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2012 10:43
To: 'dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu'
Subject: [DCRM-L] Collation conundrum

Hoping the collective wisdom can suggest the best way to formulate an early
18th-century continental pamphlet of 10 leaves. It's a  4to in 8s with an
extra fold wrapped around the regular 8 leaf gathering thus:
[1 blank leaf preceding t.p.],  normal 8-leaf gathering A,  [single leaf
comprising p. 17 and blank [18]]

The simplest formula would seem to be:
[pi]1 A^8  [chi]1

with a note explaining that pi and chi are conjugate. This should be
simple, a common occurrence for pamphlets, but I find no direction in
Bowers and wonder if something more complicated is in order? Because there
is another edition of this title, virtually identical save for signings, it
seems necessary to record collation in order to disambiguate the 2 (or
more) extant versions.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Lenore

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