[DCRM-L] 510 citations

Sun Aug 9 08:23:20 MDT 2015

I too agree with the 2nd formula. Many of the books I catalog are far 
too obscure to be found in a bibliography (let alone one in SCF), but 
have been explicated in articles or monographs, whose supporting data is 
mined by the cataloger to formulate the bib record. Evidence is 
evidence, and the 510 seems like the standard place to park it, even if 
it's not derived from a bibliography.

Lenore

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On 8/9/2015 9:08 AM, Lapka, Francis wrote:
>
> I think Manon’s example merits use of a 510, as illustrated in her 
> 2^nd approach. Both approaches are valid, but using a 510 offers 
> greater potential to collocate all resources described by the 
> reference source (Hunter) – and such collocation is a plausible user task.
>
> Francis
>
> *From:*dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] 
> *On Behalf Of *Manon Theroux
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:59 AM
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] 510 citations
>
> Deborah,
>
> Thanks! I had actually been about to follow up my original message 
> with an example. I'll send it anyway.
>
> I was wavering between the following two approaches:
>
> 500  "Probably the first publication to be printed on American 
> machine-made paper"--Hunter, D. Papermaking (2nd ed.), page 351
>
> vs.
>
> 500  "Probably the first publication to be printed on American 
> machine-made paper"--Hunter.
> 510  Hunter, D. Papermaking (2nd ed.), $c page 351
>
> Hunter is a history of papermaking, not a bibliography or catalog. The 
> sentence in Hunter that contains the quoted text actually does cite 
> the atlas being cataloged, but only briefly; wasn't sure it qualified 
> as a "published description":
>
> " ... the well-known book-printing firm of Matthew Carey and Son, 
> Philadelphia, used the Gilpin paper for the text, charts, and maps of 
> the 1820 and 1821 editions of N. Lavoisne's /A Complete Genealogical, 
> Historical, Chronological, and Geographical Atlas/, probably the first 
> publication to be printed on American machine-made paper."
>
> I guess even if Hunter doesn't go in a 510, the form of the Hunter 
> citation in the 500 could still follow SCF guidelines (even if it 
> shouldn't be proposed for inclusion in SCF because it doesn't fit the 
> stated scope).
>
> Manon
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Deborah J. Leslie 
> <DJLeslie at folger.edu <mailto:DJLeslie at folger.edu>> wrote:
>
> Hi Manon,
>
> I have always understood that the 510 is to be reserved for published 
> bibliographical descriptions, despite the MARC format’s broader scope, 
> and that references to other kinds of sources belong in a general note.
>
> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.ed 
> <mailto:djleslie at folger.ed>
>
> *From:*dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> 
> [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu 
> <mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Manon Theroux
> *Sent:* Monday, 20 July 20 2015 14:41
> *To:* DCRM Revision Group List
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] 510 citations
>
> Hi, everyone:
>
> I could use some clarification on citing resources in the MARC21 510 
> field. If the resource to be cited is NOT a bibliography or catalog 
> and doesn't contain a bibliographic description of the resource being 
> cataloged, can the 510 field still be used for the citation or should 
> the citation be incorporated into the general note? For example, 
> citing an entry for a printer in a biographical dictionary to 
> justified supplied dates in the 26X or citing an academic monograph to 
> justify an attributed name. DCRM(B) suggests that you can ("or other 
> authoritative reference sources") and points to SCF as a standard, but 
> the SCF scope statement itself is a bit narrower: "bibliographies and 
> catalogs (printed or electronic) that are useful in verifying, 
> identifying, or describing items held in rare book or special 
> collections libraries and that have been or are likely to be cited in 
> bibliographic records, trade catalog descriptions, and bibliographies."
>
> Below are the relevant bits from DCRM(B), SCF, and MARC21.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Manon
>
> --
> Manon Théroux
> Head of Technical Services
> U.S. Senate Library
>
> ===================
> DCRM(B):
> 7B14. References to published descriptions
> 7B14.1. Give references to published descriptions in bibliographies or 
> other authoritative reference sources if these have been used to 
> supply elements of the description. Use the form and punctuation 
> conventions recommended by Standard Citation Forms for Published 
> Bibliographies and Catalogs Used in Rare Book Cataloging. Begin the 
> note with the word “References” and a colon.
> References: Evans 24658
> (Comment: Made in conjunction with a general note reading: 
> “Publication date
> from Evans”)
>
> 7B14.2. Make other references to published descriptions, if considered 
> important. Such references are especially useful whenever the cited 
> source would serve to distinguish an edition (or variant) from similar 
> editions (or variants), substantiate information provided by the 
> cataloger, or provide a more detailed description of the publication 
> being cataloged.
> References: Gaskell, P. Baskerville, 17
> References: ESTC (CD-ROM, 2003 ed.) T60996
> References: Lindsay & Neu. French political pamphlets, 2194
> References: BM STC Italian, 1465-1600, p. 368
> References: Ritter, F. Incun. alsaciens de la Bib. nat. de Strasbourg, 277
> References: Palau y Dulcet (2. ed.) 19161
>
> 7B14.3. A general note may be made if a description of the publication 
> being cataloged does not appear in a specific bibliographical 
> reference source. Make such a note only if the publication fits the 
> scope for that source and the source purports to be comprehensive for 
> its scope. Preface the general note with the words “Not in” and a colon.
> Not in: Martin & Walter. Révolution française. Cf. IV:2, 9093
>
>
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> SCF Working Principles http://rbms.info/scf/working-principles/ 
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>
> Scope:
>
> This database includes bibliographies and catalogs (printed or 
> electronic) that are useful in verifying, identifying, or describing 
> items held in rare book or special collections libraries and that have 
> been or are likely to be cited in bibliographic records, trade catalog 
> descriptions, and bibliographies.
>
> MARC 21 Bibliographic Format, Application:
>
> Use the citation forms recommended in this list when creating 
> citation/references notes (field 510) in a MARC 21 bibliographic 
> record. These notes are described in Descriptive Cataloging for Rare 
> Materials (Books) 7B14.2 and other DCRM manuals.
>
> The citation/references note (510) field provides a simple 
> bibliographical citation for a published description of an item and 
> specifies where in the resources that description appears; do not 
> include other information. If necessary, use a general note (field 
> 500) to record additional information provided by the resource cited. 
> Create a citation/references note (510) field for titles which might 
> be useful for retrieval, even in cases where this would involve 
> repetition of information already recorded in a general note:
>
> General note (500) field:
>
> 500 __ $a Evans calls this the 2nd edition.
>
> Citation/references note (510) field:
>
> 510 4_ $a Evans, C. American bibliography, $c entry 14023
>
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> MARC21, 510 Field https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd510.html 
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>
> Definition and Scope:
>
> Citations or references to published bibliographic descriptions, 
> reviews, abstracts, or indexes of the content of the described item.
>
> Used to specify where an item has been cited or reviewed. Citations or 
> references may be given in a brief form (i.e., using generally 
> recognizable abbreviations, etc.). The actual text of a published 
> description is not recorded in field 510 but rather in field 520 
> (Summary, Etc. Note).
>
> For *books* and *music*, this field contains references to published 
> descriptions of the item (e.g., descriptions of rare materials 
> recorded in a brief, standardized format) or reviews (e.g., reviews in 
> professional literature).
>
> For *continuing resources*, this field is used to specify publications 
> in which a continuing resource has been indexed and/or abstracted and 
> the dates of coverage, if known. The indexing and abstracting services 
> referenced are primarily those issued as continuing resources. Certain 
> monographic titles, particularly those that are standard reference 
> tools in a subject area or that cover periods of time not included in 
> continuing publications, may also be given in this field.
>
> For unpublished *visual materials* or graphic items collectively 
> controlled, this field contains references to published descriptions 
> of the work or collection. Citations to reviews of projected *visual 
> materials* are also recorded in this field.
>
> For *mixed materials*, this field contains references to publications 
> in which abstracts, citations, descriptions, or indexes of the 
> described materials have appeared.
>

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