[DCRM-L] 510 citation form for record in British Library online catalog

[Noble, Richard]

One hates to dispute the institution's own stated preference, but I doubt
whether "Explore the British Library" has, by our standards, a terribly
long future as a name for the catalogue. It's not really a title, just an
invitation (or a command?)--by a bookish analogy, more like the sort of
phrase you'd see on a dust cover. The thing seems to called "primocat", or
perhaps "primocat.bl.uk", or "explore.bl.uk/primo_library", though it
*is* quite
sensibly designated "main catalogue", a more durable and informative term.

But apart from that kind of fluff, what about the 510 subfield c? The
"identifier" field contains the system number, e.g. "016905687" for *Mr.
Webster's second speech on the Sub-Treasury Bill, delivered March 12, 1838*.

http://primocat.bl.uk/F/?func=direct&local_base=PRIMO&doc_number=016905687&format=001&con_lng=eng

Is that what one ought to cite? Then again, was Manon citing the number
from the "DGM" field?

At any rate, it doesn't seem possible to enter such values directly in
Explore the British Library. Is there some sort of durable URL that would
enable precise access to the description referred to by way of the 510? For
online resources, a subfield u seems almost indispensable, assuming that
it's not subject to change in the next database upgrade. That's the
e-equivalent of an entry or page number.

RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
<Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:06 AM, O'Brien, Iris <Iris.O'Brien at bl.uk> wrote:

> Dear Manon,
>
>
>
> I have checked with our Primo Team and they would like our catalogue to be
> cited as "Explore the British Library". Unfortunately, I didn't get a reply
> about the permalink question from them.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Iris
>
>
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> Iris O'Brien
> Early Printed Collections Cataloguing and Processing Manager
> The British Library
> St Pancras
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> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] on behalf
> of Manon Theroux [manon.theroux at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 22 September 2015 02:12
> *To:* DCRM Revision Group List
> *Subject:* [DCRM-L] 510 citation form for record in British Library
> online catalog
>
> SCF has instructions for citing records in online catalogs at the bottom
> of this page:
> http://rbms.info/scf/working-principles/
>
> Here is the model I want to follow:
> 510 4_ $a English short title catalogue, $c entry R202726 $u
> http://estc.bl.uk/R202726
>
> Here is the record I want to cite:
>
> http://explore.bl.uk/primo_library/libweb/action/dlDisplay.do?vid=BLVU1&afterPDS=true&institution=BL&docId=BLL01004839781
>
> Is the name of the catalog "Explore the British Library"?? Or maybe it's
> "Main catalogue"??
>
> 510 4_ $a Explore the British Library, $c entry 004839781
> vs.
> 510 4_ $a British Library. Main catalogue, $c entry 004839781
>
> I took the 510 $c from the MARC 001 field, called the "Identifier" in the
> public display.
>
> I'd like to add a 510 $u as well but the URL for the record is so long and
> ugly. Is there an easy way to construct "Permalinks" for records in this
> catalog?
>
> I'm not really familiar with Primo discovery layers ...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Manon
>
> --
> Manon Théroux
> Head of Technical Services
> U.S. Senate Library
> Washington, DC 20510
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