[DCRM-L] Item-level ephemera: What's the 245$a for this film program?

Tue Dec 4 14:35:49 MST 2018

Greetings,

With ephemeral items such as programs, we typically transcribe as title proper the “opening words” of the text we find on the item, clarifying with a subtitle supplied in square brackets along with any explanatory notes.

Here is an example from a live performance:
245 04 |a The Catherine du Pont matinees :|b [program].
500 __ |a Cover title.
500 __ |a Selections from Tagore with interpretative dances by Grace Cristie (Noyes dancer) performed on Tuesday afternoon, Feb. 18, 1919; Noh dances and lyric dramas of Japan presented by Catherine du Pont, supported by Harmon MacGregor, on Sunday evening, Feb. 23, 1919.
655_7 |a Dance programs. |2 lcgft

Yes, I usually “start at the top left and work my way down” and thus for your Midsummer Night item I would probably go with Option 1 and enter the alternatives as 246 30’s, “portion of title.”  Let the resource speak for itself.  That said, I do make exceptions.  When guided by typography, I may relegate the first words to a 246 1_ |i At head of title: |a.  I also sympathize with Francis and aim simply to be ever more helpful to our researchers.

I am truly grateful for the insight shared in this discussion.  Going forward, I feel better informed on differentiating ephemeral work from the full resource.  I look forward to my next opportunity to try to make a cagey resource discoverable through appropriate access points.  Thanks!

Alice H. Hanes
Technical Services Librarian
Hagley Museum and Library
298 Buck Road East
Wilmington, DE 19807-0630
(302) 658-2400 x234
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Item-level ephemera: What's the 245$a for this film program?

Stephen, when you say you've almost always "transcribed what was on the item" do you literally start at top left and work your way down? Or do you determine where the "opening words of the text" are (and if so, where?)

For the program under consideration here, would you begin...

  1.  "Our true intent is all for your delight," Warner Bros. present Max Reinhardt's production of "A midsummer night's dream"
  2.  Warner Bros. present Max Reinhardt's production of "A midsummer night's dream"
  3.  Max Reinhardt's production of "A midsummer night's dream"

FWIW, no matter what we decide on for the title of something weird like this, we would always give the source of the title in a note, and (to quote Julie Swierzcek, Associate Librarian for Collection Description and Imaging at the Folger) we would "246 the hell out of it."

Erin.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:02 AM Young, Stephen <stephen.young at yale.edu<mailto:stephen.young at yale.edu>> wrote:

Make that 130, 100 / 240 as necessary.

Stephen R. Young

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Subject: RE: [DCRM-L] Item-level ephemera: What's the 245$a for this film program?

I’ve almost always transcribed what was on the item and explained what it was in a note, adding 130s or 100 subfield t as necessary.

Stephen R. Young

Rare Book Catalog Librarian

Beinecke Rare Book & Manuscript Library

PO Box 208330

New Haven CT 06520-8330

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My interpretation is that the program lacks a title. With similar material, I’ve devised titles along the lines of your 2nd option (Film program for Max Reinhard's production of 'A midsummer night's dream') because I think it’s more helpful for our users, esp. when looking at a list of search results. Hedging, I’d also give a variant title for:  Warner Bros. present Max Reinhardt's production of 'A midsummer night's dream’.

When using a devised title in this context, I’m curious if anyone thinks it could be given without square brackets? Does a program normally carry (self-)identifying information (see RDA 2.2.4)?

Matt makes good points about other important parts of the description.

Francis

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Thanks for bringing this up! I've encountered similar situations and agree that clarity would be helpful.

When I've cataloged advertisements, programs, playbills, prospectuses, dummies, etc. which present themselves using the same title as the full thing being advertised, performed, etc., I have sometimes transcribed the title on the program, etc., and added a devised subtitle, by analogy to RDA 2.3.4.6 for film trailers (RDA example: Annie Hall : [trailer]), which would result in something like: Max Reinhart's production of 'A midsummer night's dream' : [program].

Whether devising the whole title or just the subtitle, I think the important part is to differentiate it from the full work/expression/manifestation/item while also preserving the relationship to that WEMI, as I think RDA otherwise lacks good instructions and relationship designators for relating these sorts of resources to each other (e.g. Advertisement for (manifestation)). Possibly a refinement of subject relationships (Appendix M)?

And in a cases like this, creator/contributor relationships are also different from those of the full resource, and would also benefit from clarification. I would guess Max Reinhart, or the others involved in the production of the film, had little or nothing to do with the content or production of the program, per se. Could Warner Brothers be considered the creator of this resource?

Matt

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:53 AM Erin Blake <erin.blake.folger at gmail.com<mailto:erin.blake.folger at gmail.com>> wrote:

We are clarifying our guidelines for item-level cataloging of film programs (souvenir programs, usually from the "Golden Age" of cinema), and are interested in knowing what other institutions do for the title proper when cataloging such things at the item level (translation: we don't have unanimous agreement here).  It's our policy to use RDA for machine-press era printed texts, so quotes below are from RDA, but DCRM(B) has equivalent rules that come out the same.

See attached for the outside and inside of the film program (issued folded in half, shown open for convenience in the photo).

We all agree that that this is a textual manifestation consisting of "one or more pages, leaves, sheets, or cards" and we all agree that the title of a movie is present on the front cover (namely, "Max Reinhardt's production of 'A midsummer night's dream'")

We're asking ourselves whether the film program's title can be found in or on:

  1.  a title page, title sheet, or title card
  2.  a cover or jacket issued with the manifestation
  3.  a caption
  4.  a masthead
  5.  a colophon

If so, what is it?

And if not, what would we use as the devised title? Following RDA 2.3.2.11 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccess.rdatoolkit.org%2Frdachp2_rda2-3631.html&data=02%7C01%7Cstephen.young%40yale.edu%7C13c8fef4c85a4597483408d65960ffb0%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C636794670490593224&sdata=EGurDaT0RhVNMsXpleCZ3QEcVrVKbX6vYXSanK3J3jM%3D&reserved=0> , our options would be:

1.       Use the opening words of the text as a title ("Warner Bros. present Max Reinhardt's production of 'A midsummer night's dream'")

2.       Devise a title that contains an indication of the nature of the resource ("Film program for Max Reinhard's production of 'A midsummer night's dream'")

 Thanks,

Erin.

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