[DCRM-L] Alma

Fri Sep 20 12:46:47 MDT 2019

A follow up for Richard: There are circulating copies of Hell's Angels in
the library: they are buried in the four listings that have the subtitle,
"a strange and terrible saga". Sigh. The 24 listings for versions that
don't include the subtitle appear first-- I don't know the reason, but have
reported the situation to Ex Libris.

And Ted: As a native Angelena, I found "Los Angeles del Infierno"
especially funny. :)

-Belinda

Belinda Egan
McHenry Library, Metadata Services
UC Santa Cruz
1156 High Street
Santa Cruz, CA 96064
831-459-2094

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 10:15 AM Noble, Richard <richard_noble at brown.edu>
wrote:

> Belinda-- Re *Hell's Angels*: Is there a circulating dead-tree copy of
> the book in any UCSC library? If so, what's the trick? I tried various
> searches and came up with Special Collections holdings only (including an
> "everything" search).
>
> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:19 PM Belinda Egan <began at ucsc.edu> wrote:
>
>> We started with Alma and Primo VE over a year ago, and have discovered
>> many of the issues that others have noted. For us the most user-unfriendly
>> feature in Primo is how multiple editions of the same work are grouped. For
>> example: last year we received a large collection of works by Hunter S.
>> Thompson, including various editions, printings, and translations.  There
>> seems to be no way to sort out the circulating books in Primo results.
>> Here's an example, a search for "Hell's Angels", narrowed to "Held by
>> library":
>>
>>
>> https://ucsc.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/discovery/search?query=any,contains,%22hell%27s%20angels%22&tab=LibraryCatalog&search_scope=MyInstitution&vid=01CDL_SCR_INST:USCS&facet=tlevel,include,available_p&offset=0
>>
>> Good luck to the undergrad just trying to find a copy of the book in
>> English to check out... While we do have a facet configured to limit
>> results to Special Collections, we can't go the other way and exclude
>> non-circulating material.
>>
>> -Belinda
>>
>> Belinda Egan
>> McHenry Library, Metadata Services
>> UC Santa Cruz
>> 1156 High Street
>> Santa Cruz, CA 96064
>> 831-459-2094
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:02 AM Christine DeZelar-Tiedman <
>> dezel002 at umn.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Others have already made the comments that I would have made, but I
>>> would like to add, in regard to Primo, that you can configure the de-duping
>>> and FRBR-ization of bib records so that rare materials are not clustering
>>> in search results with other related items. When we first came up on Primo,
>>> physical copies of rare books were getting clustered with ebook and
>>> microform versions of the same title, and the ebook always displayed as the
>>> primary item in the cluster, so unless someone knew to drill down, users
>>> might not know that we had a physical copy of the book. We were able to
>>> configure things so that materials in special collections locations did not
>>> get combined in Primo search results with other formats, but it took some
>>> convincing because most people (including ExLibris) assumed that e-versions
>>> would ALWAYS be preferred by users. We were also able to get some targeted
>>> searches set up, limiting to special collection materials. None of this is
>>> Alma-specific, but since you brought up Primo I wanted to mention it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 1:37 PM Gemberling, Ted P <tgemberl at uab.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Angela, 590’s are displaying in our Primo catalog and are searchable.
>>>> Now, I think maybe one factor that may be different for you is you don’t
>>>> want all your libraries to see all the notes. We just have one catalog for
>>>> our libraries. Admittedly we don’t have a lot of 590 notes. They are mostly
>>>> in our Special Collections materials.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ted Gemberling
>>>>
>>>> UAB Libraries
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Jones,
>>>> Angela
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 18, 2019 10:11 AM
>>>> *To:* DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Alma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SMU migrated from Voyager to Alma in the summer of 2017. Off the top of
>>>> my head, here are my two cents about issues that specifically relate to
>>>> cataloging rare or special collections materials.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First, bound-withs work very differently in Alma than in Voyager. I
>>>> find the Alma workflow to catalog bound-withs to be more cumbersome,
>>>> although the record displays and discoverability in both Alma and in Primo
>>>> seems to work fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The second issue concerns local notes. When we migrated, we went from
>>>> an environment where all the campus libraries shared Voyager, but didn’t
>>>> share bib records. Our bibs all migrated as separate bibs, but going
>>>> forward in Alma we have had to share new records. We all had been
>>>> accustomed to using 590 fields in our specific records for local notes, but
>>>> in a shared record environment that can get sort of messy. We have looked
>>>> at using other MARC fields in the holdings record to put in copy specific
>>>> notes such as donor notes, provenance, etc. But my understanding is that
>>>> such notes aren’t necessarily searchable in Primo. I would love to find out
>>>> that I am wrong about that, however!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I said, that is my two cents. Others may have different
>>>> perspectives.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Angela
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Angela Jones
>>>>
>>>> Head of Technical Services
>>>>
>>>> Underwood Law Library, Dedman School of Law
>>>>
>>>> Southern Methodist University
>>>>
>>>> P.O. Box 750354
>>>>
>>>> Dallas, TX 75275-0354
>>>>
>>>> 214-768-1827
>>>>
>>>> arjones at smu.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* DCRM-L <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu> *On Behalf Of *Tedford,
>>>> Beth
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:54 AM
>>>> *To:* DCRM Users' Group <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Alma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would as well. We will be migrating from Voyager to ALMA next year
>>>> and would love to hear of others experiences. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:36 AM Carpenter, Jane <
>>>> jfcarpenter at library.ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I’d also be interested in hearing responses to Richard’s query—
>>>>
>>>> Thanks—
>>>>
>>>> Jane Carpenter
>>>>
>>>> Special Collections Cataloger
>>>>
>>>> UCLA Library Special Collections
>>>>
>>>> jfcarpenter at library.ucla.edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 7:22 AM, Noble, Richard <richard_noble at brown.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Could those of you who have experience with Alma in the context of rare
>>>> materials cataloging please advise me of what to look for in a presentation
>>>> by representatives from ExLibris? Advice off the top of your head would be
>>>> fine, and could be privately communicated if you think that advisable. We
>>>> are currently a III Sierra user.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RICHARD NOBLE :: RARE MATERIALS CATALOGUER :: JOHN HAY LIBRARY
>>>>
>>>> BROWN UNIVERSITY  ::  PROVIDENCE, R.I. 02912  ::  401-863-1187
>>>>
>>>> <Richard_Noble at Br <RICHARD_NOBLE at BROWN.EDU>own.edu>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Beth Tedford, MLIS
>>>>
>>>> Special Collections & Archives Assistant
>>>>
>>>> Rare books cataloger
>>>>
>>>> Z. Smith Reynolds Library
>>>>
>>>> Wake Forest University
>>>>
>>>> PO Box 7777
>>>>
>>>> Winston-Salem, NC 27109
>>>> 336-758-4657
>>>>
>>>> tedforme at wfu.edu
>>>>
>>>> Defender of Wonders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christine DeZelar-Tiedman
>>> Metadata and Emerging Technologies Librarian
>>> University of Minnesota Libraries
>>> 160 Wilson Library
>>> 309 19th Ave. S.
>>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>>> (612) 625-0381
>>> dezel002 at umn.edu
>>>
>>> pronouns: she/her/hers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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