[DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 175, Issue 3

Fri Sep 4 11:23:12 MDT 2020

Absolute support from my institution regarding indexing of 510!
It will really help with "standard citation" wording:  giving us models to follow, and clean up candidates.  Since we don't have authority control on these fields, an index would be terrific.  Sue.

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Tel. 604-822-4995  Email: susan.andrews at ubc.ca

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: OCLC Connexion / WorldCat indexing of MARC 510 field
      (Erin Blake)
   2. Re: OCLC Connexion / WorldCat indexing of MARC 510 field
      (Parascandola, Jacqueline L)

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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 09:49:07 -0400
From: Erin Blake <erin.blake.folger at gmail.com>
To: "DCRM Users' Group" <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC Connexion / WorldCat indexing of MARC 510
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Definitely useful! Our patrons and staff are accustomed to keyword searching our OPAC's "Bibliographic Citation" field for rare books and for
prints: rare books with many editions and issues (e.g. bibles) have almost identical author/title/date, but are distinguished by Wing or STC number; prints with supplied titles (e.g. Wenceslaus Hollar's etchings) are distinguished by Pennington or New Hollstein number.

If statistical back-up is needed, I could put in a request for number-of-hits and number-of-reference-responses related to the Folgerpedia page "Bibliographic Citation field <https://folgerpedia.folger.edu/Bibliographic_Citation_field>" (which I now see could do with additional editing... must.... resist.....)

Erin.

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On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:21 AM Lapka, Francis <francis.lapka at yale.edu>
wrote:

> Hi all.
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> I had a brief but useful email exchange with Jay Weitz yesterday about 
> the MARC 510 field. In its current setup (as confirmed by Jay), OCLC 
> does not index the field 
> <https://help.oclc.org/Librarian_Toolbox/Searching_WorldCat_Indexes/Fi
> elds_and_subfields/5xx_fields>,
> with a niche exception for SCIPIO
> <https://help.oclc.org/Librarian_Toolbox/Searching_WorldCat_Indexes/In
> dexes/Indexes_A_to_C/Citation_SCIPIO_specific>
> records.
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> It sounds like OCLC would be willing to consider a change. Jay says it 
> would be useful to have a collective indication of interest from the 
> RBMS community (perhaps endorsed by BSC), illustrated by use cases.
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> Would others support such a change in OCLC? If so, can you share 
> sample use cases, for researchers or for staff?
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> I?ll start with my own use case: to facilitate aspects of cataloging 
> activity, I?d like to find all records in OCLC that have a 510 
> citation to the J.R. Abbey catalogs 
> <https://rbms.info/scf/?s=abbey+aquatint> and are associated with online resources (e.g. HathiTrust).
>
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> Keen to hear others.
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> Thanks,
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> Francis
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> Ps. This issue has appeared before on DCRM-L 
> <https://listserver.lib.byu.edu/pipermail/dcrm-l/2016-September/004890
> .html> (with a variation on *local *indexing here 
> <https://listserver.lib.byu.edu/pipermail/dcrm-l/2018-October/thread.h
> tml#5556>
> ).
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> *Senior Catalogue Librarian*
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> Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts
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> Yale Center for British Art
>
> 203-432-9672  ?  francis.lapka at yale.edu
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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 13:51:31 +0000
From: "Parascandola, Jacqueline L" <jpara at upenn.edu>
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] OCLC Connexion / WorldCat indexing of MARC 510
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This would be a great help to catalogers.

To assist in cataloging it would be helpful to search for Hebrew records containing a citation to Halper or IMHM (among others). It would help us sift the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

We would support this initiative.

Jackie Parascandola

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This would be very helpful.
It would have to be based on keywords though, I think.

If only for the reason that many older records (or non North American records) will only use keywords, for example "Cioranescu" or "Sabin" or "Palau" before the RBMS put their brilliant standard citation guide online.

Just my two cents,
Allison

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:21 AM Lapka, Francis <francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>> wrote:

Hi all.

I had a brief but useful email exchange with Jay Weitz yesterday about the MARC 510 field. In its current setup (as confirmed by Jay), OCLC does not index the field<https://help.oclc.org/Librarian_Toolbox/Searching_WorldCat_Indexes/Fields_and_subfields/5xx_fields>, with a niche exception for SCIPIO<https://help.oclc.org/Librarian_Toolbox/Searching_WorldCat_Indexes/Indexes/Indexes_A_to_C/Citation_SCIPIO_specific> records.

It sounds like OCLC would be willing to consider a change. Jay says it would be useful to have a collective indication of interest from the RBMS community (perhaps endorsed by BSC), illustrated by use cases.

Would others support such a change in OCLC? If so, can you share sample use cases, for researchers or for staff?

I?ll start with my own use case: to facilitate aspects of cataloging activity, I?d like to find all records in OCLC that have a 510 citation to the J.R. Abbey catalogs<https://rbms.info/scf/?s=abbey+aquatint> and are associated with online resources (e.g. HathiTrust).

Keen to hear others.

Thanks,

Francis

Ps. This issue has appeared before on DCRM-L<https://listserver.lib.byu.edu/pipermail/dcrm-l/2016-September/004890.html> (with a variation on local indexing here<https://listserver.lib.byu.edu/pipermail/dcrm-l/2018-October/thread.html#5556>).

Senior Catalogue Librarian

Department of Rare Books and Manuscripts

Yale Center for British Art

203-432-9672  ?  francis.lapka at yale.edu<mailto:francis.lapka at yale.edu>

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